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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/13/2008 Posts: 1,565
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The highly farcical goings-on in government in the last few days alone behoove Kenyans to take to the streets like the Tunisians/Egyptians/Yemenis...
then again, the Kenyans who have the wherewithal to trigger this off are compromised and self serving while the masses are hugely subjugated and despondent...
If COTU was a real trade union...it would be the ideal vehicle to take worker's forward...its their taxes that are being wasted shipping some clots across the continent to lobby for immunity from the ICC...its their taxes that are being wasted on lavish lifestyles and a bloated government...its from the brow of their sweat that the rich get richer ....working in inhumane conditions and bereft of worker's rights and protection under the law...
OK, I'm having one of those days filled with ansgt....we still have IDPs out there, famine looms large and there is so much to fix.
The same clowns that are trying to shield the Ocampo six are the same three ring circus disagreeing about judicial nominees (is that a red herring or what?).
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 1,982 Location: matano manne
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Djinn wrote:The highly farcical goings-on in government in the last few days alone behoove Kenyans to take to the streets like the Tunisians/Egyptians/Yemenis...
then again, the Kenyans who have the wherewithal to trigger this off are compromised and self serving while the masses are hugely subjugated and despondent...
If COTU was a real trade union...it would be the ideal vehicle to take worker's forward...its their taxes that are being wasted shipping some clots across the continent to lobby for immunity from the ICC...its their taxes that are being wasted on lavish lifestyles and a bloated government...its from the brow of their sweat that the rich get richer ....working in inhumane conditions and bereft of worker's rights and protection under the law...
OK, I'm having one of those days filled with ansgt....we still have IDPs out there, famine looms large and there is so much to fix.
The same clowns that are trying to shield the Ocampo six are the same three ring circus disagreeing about judicial nominees (is that a red herring or what?).
@Djinn, this is a spot on analysis of the current situation. However, IMHO, the size of the middle class in Kenya is too small compared to the poorer peasants. What we can have in Kenya is a peasant revolution guided by the middle class. However, several critical factors play out against such a dream: 1. As Che Guevara observed in the 1970s in Zaire, Africans have this kinship attachment that hinders them to think from an economic point of view. Can you imagine the Kikuyu, Luo, Kambo, Kalenjin, etc peasants joining ranks to revolt against RAO, WR, Kibs etc? Only when this important group is fully liberated from the idiocy of tribalism will there ever be a revolt on this soil similar to the Tunisian or Egyptian one. The point is we do not look at what we have in common from a class perspective it is time we raised our class consciousness to the next level. 2. As long as the masses continue to identify with the greedy politicians as "we" have e.g 8, ministers against "you" with 3, then the situation will remain the same. What is needed to change this though is coming on albeit slowly. The masses need to move from their rural enclaves into towns to taste the bitterness having to fend for yourself while the GoK takes care of a few simpletons in the name of MPigs! 3. We do not have leadership with alternative style of doing things they all think in the same despotic ways, "our time to eat"! COTU has the numbers and maybe kidogo of ideology lakini tribal affiliations among its rank and file would not get it past the first round. NGO activists only lobby so as to attract funding and they are never known to be change agents. 4. We were fooled collectively that the new constitution is a panacea to all our problems of leadership and misrule and we blindly handed the captaincy of the craft to this new era to the same anti people agents. Finally the BIG question is: WHAT CAN WE (WAZUANS) DO FOR KENYA?
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Rank: Member Joined: 8/4/2008 Posts: 205 Location: Nairobi
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Rahatupu wrote:Djinn wrote:The highly farcical goings-on in government in the last few days alone behoove Kenyans to take to the streets like the Tunisians/Egyptians/Yemenis...
then again, the Kenyans who have the wherewithal to trigger this off are compromised and self serving while the masses are hugely subjugated and despondent...
If COTU was a real trade union...it would be the ideal vehicle to take worker's forward...its their taxes that are being wasted shipping some clots across the continent to lobby for immunity from the ICC...its their taxes that are being wasted on lavish lifestyles and a bloated government...its from the brow of their sweat that the rich get richer ....working in inhumane conditions and bereft of worker's rights and protection under the law...
OK, I'm having one of those days filled with ansgt....we still have IDPs out there, famine looms large and there is so much to fix.
The same clowns that are trying to shield the Ocampo six are the same three ring circus disagreeing about judicial nominees (is that a red herring or what?).
@Djinn, this is a spot on analysis of the current situation. However, IMHO, the size of the middle class in Kenya is too small compared to the poorer peasants. What we can have in Kenya is a peasant revolution guided by the middle class. However, several critical factors play out against such a dream: 1. As Che Guevara observed in the 1970s in Zaire, Africans have this kinship attachment that hinders them to think from an economic point of view. Can you imagine the Kikuyu, Luo, Kambo, Kalenjin, etc peasants joining ranks to revolt against RAO, WR, Kibs etc? Only when this important group is fully liberated from the idiocy of tribalism will there ever be a revolt on this soil similar to the Tunisian or Egyptian one. The point is we do not look at what we have in common from a class perspective it is time we raised our class consciousness to the next level. 2. As long as the masses continue to identify with the greedy politicians as "we" have e.g 8, ministers against "you" with 3, then the situation will remain the same. What is needed to change this though is coming on albeit slowly. The masses need to move from their rural enclaves into towns to taste the bitterness having to fend for yourself while the GoK takes care of a few simpletons in the name of MPigs! 3. We do not have leadership with alternative style of doing things they all think in the same despotic ways, "our time to eat"! COTU has the numbers and maybe kidogo of ideology lakini tribal affiliations among its rank and file would not get it past the first round. NGO activists only lobby so as to attract funding and they are never known to be change agents. 4. We were fooled collectively that the new constitution is a panacea to all our problems of leadership and misrule and we blindly handed the captaincy of the craft to this new era to the same anti people agents. Finally the BIG question is: WHAT CAN WE (WAZUANS) DO FOR KENYA? Start by signing the ICC petition, just takes 5 seconds of your time... http://www.petitiononline.com/811976/petition-sign.html"When the pupil is ready to learn, a teacher will appear." -- Zen proverb
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,331 Location: Masada
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I'm tired of kunung'unika Kenyan style.Let whatever be to happen. You were the people who voted Yes in the referendum!Keep Quiet. Portfolio: Sold You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/19/2010 Posts: 3,505 Location: Uganda
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Saw an invite for a peaceful demonstration from freedom corner to the parliament today in support of ICC.Things have started.No wonder Wazua was down. A government in panic. Lets see if Marende will put Kenyans first in his ruling. Like Abdikadir, asked why do we like doing things the hardway? Kibakis government may have constructed the roads , FPE CDF but it may come out as a goverment that was out of touch with the people. Moi was veeeeeery bad , but atleast he was in touch with the people on the ground.He knew the breaking limits of the people.eg the repealing sect 2A in 1990s. punda amecheka
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Rank: Member Joined: 6/23/2010 Posts: 127 Location: Msa
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/quote] Start by signing the ICC petition, just takes 5 seconds of your time... http://www.petitiononline.com/811976/petition-sign.html[/quote] jawz 1. thanks for sharing.  Watu waende hague waache matezo. Laan walozitafuta kwa jasho lao zikawamalizie huko. I pity not one of them, Ocampo should mention the rest of the culprits, wakianza kwenda waendanishane wote mara one. "A woman's heart should be so hidden in Christ that a man should have to seek Him first to find her."
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/13/2008 Posts: 1,565
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@Rahatupu, you said:
"1. As Che Guevara observed in the 1970s in Zaire, Africans have this kinship attachment that hinders them to think from an economic point of view. Can you imagine the Kikuyu, Luo, Kambo, Kalenjin, etc peasants joining ranks to revolt against RAO, WR, Kibs etc? Only when this important group is fully liberated from the idiocy of tribalism will there ever be a revolt on this soil similar to the Tunisian or Egyptian one. The point is we do not look at what we have in common from a class perspective it is time we raised our class consciousness to the next level."
True, but the 70s are different from now. So much has changed - there has been some level of maturity in democracy, increased literacy and awareness of human rights.
You talk of peasants but I will talk of working class Kenyans and I will say this about them:
1 - Feeling of oppression (and getting really fed up) a) You might be a Luo in Ahero or a Giriama in Mazeras or a Meru in Chogoria - when matatus take the law into their own hands, overcharge, overload, insult passengers, drop them anywhere they like, etc - this ONE aspect is symptomatic of a bigger problem - rule of law and disrespect for human rights. A 3 shilling increase in fuel results in a 10 shilling increase in fares. No one holds them in check. Meanwhile FKE fights back on proposals to increase wages and COTU sits on its hands. The traffic department and Min of Transport does f*** ALL to rein in this sector. This sector generates BILLIONS of shillings and the real only contribution to public coffers is by way of fuel levies. This is a monster of its own. Whether you are Wairimu, Odongo or Zulekha - you will feel violated EVERY day on the road either as a motorist or a commuter. It will not be because you are kikuyu/luo/rendille/etc
b) Rising cost of living and exploitation - I'd like to think that there is no TRIBE immune to this. It might be said that there are more wealthy people from one tribe than another - and that in itself leads down another road with many branches (weather, arable land, culture, political history, displacement etc). We cannot change much of that without opening a new can of worms and even if we resolve some of it, it will only affect the higher echelons in each tribe (0.5% of Kenyans) - lets look at the masses - at any given time, go to downtown Nairobi or to the slums - you will find all tribes living in hardship - of course they sometimes rally together for security and sense of being - but they hunger the same, suffer the same and strive the same. They also buy Jogoo for Kshs 80.
c) Constitutional rights - perhaps they should rephrase this to "constitutional rights for those with money" - I have said this before and perhaps we have all seen this. Poor people are treated worse when in the face of or in the hands of the law. You will be "Ngombe wewe!" as a poor hawker who was arrested selling wares without a licence. You will be "Bloody Kumbavu" if you are a househelp arrested in connection with domestic theft. Notwithstanding your culpability - you should be treated the same. Meanwhile, Bwana Tumbo Kubwa, Mheshimiwa Siasa Mingi and all the "pharmacists"/car dealers/bogus contractors/killers/etc - who have raided public coffers, engaged in corruption, grabbed land, etc etc - do not even see the inside of a police station, let alone a cell. Their cases drag on. Meanwhile, Mweni, Onyango and Idris languish in cells for days and weeks. Their cases drag on for months and years. And this does not happen because they are garba/samburu/kamba/teso/nandi - they are equally F--KED because they are of less than modest means. 2 - The wheat farmer in Narok, the maize farmer in Eldoret, the cane grower in Nyanza and the coffee farmer in Kiambu - whether peasant farmers or large scale, at any given point in time they each have some wants from the government - good roads, subsidies, access to export markets, access to capital, bans on imports that affect their prices, etc - when the government had NO useful policies and corrupt politicians do what they want all these people suffer. 3 - Labour laws and exploitation - please don't let me start on this - I might use more than colourful language to describe the two or three people who could make a difference for all the factory workers, construction workers, EPZ workers, etc - suffice to say, if we "stormed the bastille" - I'd have their necks under a guillotine in a flash. 4 – So, we look on – we are told 40% of fuel costs go to government – we pay for this as commuters, we pay for this as consumers (commodity transport costs) and then we also pay for this as electricity users (power generation). So, we pay. We pay VAT and PAYE. We pay city council licence fees, we pay bribes to avoid a day in court about an offence for which we should have been fined on the spot. Our kin get killed or mained in accidents – the big insurers hire lawyers who help the cases drag on so long that the interest alone on possible awards, becomes a revenue stream. The poor person is royally f***ed from all possible orifices. 5 - Meanwhile, they buy big cars, they ferry politicians all over the continent to help shield their own, they talk endlessly, there bellies grow bigger. We should have more teachers and smaller classes. We should have more roads and more security.
I could go on but my point is, there are more than enough things Kenyans have in common than what sets them apart (tribe, financial status) – there are more reasons that Kenyans can come together for a popular revolution - the working class Kenyan is bent over and taking it up the tail pipe – if the middle and upper class want to enjoy their wealth, security and well being – they should realize that you can't look on and watch the working class get pushed against the wall.
Everywhere the poor guy turns, he/she feels oppressed, exploited, harassed...unsure of his/her rights...hungry, financially struggling and lurching from crisis to crisis...no water, no electricity, no health care...it gets to a point, just as it did in Animal Farm where you can't distinguish between the farmers and the pigs - they all look the same....soon it will not be about tribe... Where there have been successful revolutions, its been the masses - the hungry people, the deprived, the subjugated and oppressed... Sooner or later the centre won't hold….
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/13/2008 Posts: 1,565
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@jawz1 - petition? Good luck with that. Kenyans voted Yes for the new constitution and they got a piece of paper. Its no more different from the Traffic Act....or the Penal Code...or any other legislation in Kenya....if it cannot be upheld....
Anyway, I will share the link with Anyango the fish vendor near my place and Wairimu who sits next to her selling second hand clothes. Also Njoro the barber - I think they will find that very effective...
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/13/2008 Posts: 1,565
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Djinn wrote:@jawz1 - petition? Good luck with that. Kenyans voted Yes for the new constitution and they got a piece of paper. Its no more different from the Traffic Act....or the Penal Code...or any other legislation in Kenya....if it cannot be upheld....
Anyway, I will share the link with Anyango the fish vendor near my place and Wairimu who sits next to her selling second hand clothes. Also Njoro the barber - I think they will find that very effective... As at 1701 hrs Thursday 3 Feb - just 5198 signatures. Some few facts before we rush to sign up - lets see what ELSE could be effective 1 - three million internet connections and an estimated 8 million users in Kenya. 2 - 18 million mobile subscribers...SMS cost Kshs 1. I think to have a paid for SMS poll (only for registered SIM cards) would be more inclusive and easier understood - it would cost 18 million but save us millions.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2007 Posts: 8,776 Location: Cameroon
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Bannish all of them, then turn to who? Obiero gave a very spot on depiction of the arab revolutions vis a vis subsaharan africa... "...united by religion n purpose..." A revolution in Kenya can only be so bloody....bt noise works 4us just fine. Lets make noise, has worked severally albeit at the xpense of making appalling international headlines so often... TULIA.........UFUNZWE!
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