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migingo: muthaura tells it as it is!
mtaalam
#1 Posted : Tuesday, May 26, 2009 9:01:00 AM
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Capital Talk on K24 last night - Guest: Francis Muthaura....
'Uganda is more important to Kenya than Migingo,they are our largest trading partners worth over 42b. We cannot afford to lose them. Kenyans should stop thinking with their emotions.'

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Chaka
#2 Posted : Tuesday, May 26, 2009 9:14:00 AM
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Where does UG get all these billions ?
SLEDGEHAMMER
#3 Posted : Tuesday, May 26, 2009 9:29:00 AM
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Typical Kenya thinking-money.We can cede our land/water becos of money we receive in trading with Uganda.What about the movement of beacons in Pokot? If that is the reasoning of a senior civil servant then we are doomed.

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VituVingiSana
#4 Posted : Tuesday, May 26, 2009 9:32:00 AM
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Well,if Kenya will give up migingo to Uganda... what happens to the Luos that kibaki nor museveni want?

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mtaalam
#5 Posted : Tuesday, May 26, 2009 9:34:00 AM
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@ Chaka do you know Kenya made Shs 43b from flower export to Europe 2007 and 40b in 2008? I'm sure with RVR (containers) and all the oil tankers and cargo trailers to Uganda we must be making much more.

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Chaka
#6 Posted : Tuesday, May 26, 2009 9:39:00 AM
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@mtaalam,

I asked about UG's billions i.e are bananas and waragi enough to generate the billions they use to trade with Kenya considering that the oil they struck is yet to be exploited?
McReggae
#7 Posted : Tuesday, May 26, 2009 11:08:00 AM
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That Muthaura talk is very cheap.....they would spend more than that 42B elsewhere if their relations with Kenya were to break!!!

.......wonder why sometimes they sing about sovereignity!!!!!


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Kamaa
#8 Posted : Tuesday, May 26, 2009 3:55:00 PM
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@ mtaalam i agreed that ug gives us over 40b.. but that's not a reason for us to cede migingo.. after all 40b is trade & ug is not giving us for free..

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Kaigangio
#9 Posted : Tuesday, May 26, 2009 4:06:00 PM
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@ chaka,

just an insight...Ugandas exports commodities are mainly coffee,fish and fish products,tea; gold,cotton,flowers,horticultural products.

...and she exports her products to: Kenya 14.7%,Switzerland 13.7%,Netherlands 9.2%,UK 6.4%,South Africa 5.6%

....she imports her goods from: Kenya 26%,India 7.4%,South Africa 7.2%,Japan 6.6%,UK 6.3%,UAE 5.8%,US 5.7%,China 5.1%


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eli
#10 Posted : Tuesday, May 26, 2009 5:14:00 PM
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Lets assume UK or USA or China is giving us 100B in trade! Will we well Mombasa to them?

But you shall remember the LORD your God,for it is He who is giving you power to make wealth,that He may confirm His covenant which He swore to your fathers,as it is this day. Deu 8:18
eli
#11 Posted : Tuesday, May 26, 2009 5:31:00 PM
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i mean,will we sell Mombasa to them?

But you shall remember the LORD your God,for it is He who is giving you power to make wealth,that He may confirm His covenant which He swore to your fathers,as it is this day. Deu 8:18
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