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Rank: Member Joined: 1/22/2011 Posts: 322 Location: Chicago, IL, USA
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Quick question... and pardon me ahead of time for asking this question, but I have read comments here and on Daily Nation, and it seems to me that there is a general attitude among a fair number of commentators when things like this happen that so-and-so is "not qualified", and I think that is not fair. This could have been a defective tire, loss of tire pressure, small debris on the runway that punctured the tire, bird-strike against the tire, etc. but whatever the case, there seems to always be an attitude that "this wouldn't happen in the US", or "we are unsafe, the UK is safe", etc. etc.
Why is there a general feeling that locals are not capable? KQ has a very good safety record and great pilots... well, except for that pilot that experienced spatial disorientation and banked the plane hard right and out of control... but these things happen. People should be praising KQ for the fact that JKIA was ready and process capable to support an emergency landing, that the tower saw the incident and contacted the authorities and the pilots, and that the pilots did a stellar job landing the plane sans a tire- no skidding off the runway. Can we get three cheers for that?
It's like a general feeling of self-loathing almost, and the Kenyan news media jumps right into it, and I think that it hinders progress. The media is quick to denounce the stoking of tribalism, and rightfully so. But who denounces their news-cycle tool of self-loathing and negativity? That is NOT how you raise a people up. You have to believe in yourself and your capability, and all the negativity- the biblical murmuring and complaining, will not have Kenya see Vision 2030. Confidence, patriotism, recognition of achievement, and self-pride, will.
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Rank: Member Joined: 1/26/2010 Posts: 124
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I am a KQ shareholder but after travelling with them, I can't help but think something is not going right in the house. - delays - in Jan, the NBO-JHB flight was delayed for more than an hour -in Nov 2010, once we'd all boarded, flight jhb-nbo couldn't take off. We were kept aboard for close to half hour as they sorted out some mechanical fault(!) - on the Jan flight, we were forced to watch a naija movie in which during the first 5 minutes, we were bombarded with some rather obscene bedroom scenes) Seriously, there were children, the old, all mix. The good thing is that people complained and the trashy movie was taken out. Shame on KQ!!!! -On more than one occassion, the food actually ran out! and passengers were asked to please just eat this, it is all we have left. Well Naikuni, needs a rest. He has outlived his good in KQ Tired of mediocrity. Am going to the very top!
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Rank: Member Joined: 1/22/2011 Posts: 322 Location: Chicago, IL, USA
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RichVee wrote:I am a KQ shareholder but after travelling with them, I can't help but think something is not going right in the house. - delays - in Jan, the NBO-JHB flight was delayed for more than an hour -in Nov 2010, once we'd all boarded, flight jhb-nbo couldn't take off. We were kept aboard for close to half hour as they sorted out some mechanical fault(!) - on the Jan flight, we were forced to watch a naija movie in which during the first 5 minutes, we were bombarded with some rather obscene bedroom scenes) Seriously, there were children, the old, all mix. The good thing is that people complained and the trashy movie was taken out. Shame on KQ!!!! -On more than one occassion, the food actually ran out! and passengers were asked to please just eat this, it is all we have left.
Well Naikuni, needs a rest. He has outlived his good in KQ I've waited on the tarmac or had delays of up to nine hours at JFK, LAX, ORD and ATL among others. Delays are normal once you start to expand your routes. All growing airlines experience delays, and 30 minutes to an hour is absolutely nothing compared to the delays in US airspace and would be considered in the "excellent" range. Understand that there is an entire network of flights, security procedures, pre-flight checklists, flight prep procedures, weather, etc etc that goes into making sure that your flight departs and arrives safely. If anything, maybe KQ could do a better job explaining this to passengers... communication and customer service. As far as mechanical faults, be glad that they caught them on the ground, not in the sky. As far as the movie, that isn't necessarily KQ's fault, though they should of course take responsibility. Movie houses make in-house edits for "ancillary markets" in which all adult themes are removed from movies that will be viewed by all audiences. The wrong version was likely sent to KQ. They should apologize and make it part of the procedure to review all in-flight entertainment regardless of what the distributor says about its contents. As far as food running out, maybe it was a weight restriction... food versus FUEL. Which would you pick? But again, this is where KQ could probably put some polish on its customer service skills. A coupon for dinner at the Carnivore or even Wimpy Burger to make up for the inconvenience would have done a lot to smooth things over nicely.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/9/2008 Posts: 5,389
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jasonhill wrote:.....there is a general attitude among a fair number of commentators when things like this happen that so-and-so is "not qualified", and I think that is not fair. This could have been a defective tire, loss of tire pressure, small debris on the runway that punctured the tire, bird-strike against the tire, etc. but whatever the case, there seems to always be an attitude that "this wouldn't happen in the US", or "we are unsafe, the UK is safe", etc. etc.
Why is there a general feeling that locals are not capable? KQ has a very good safety record and great pilots... well, except for that pilot that experienced spatial disorientation and banked the plane hard right and out of control... but these things happen. ...... Sometime back an engine fell off a US Northwest airlines jet (one of the world's leading airlines) and the pilots only noticed it had fallen when they landed. http://www.nytimes.com/1990/01/05/us/jet-lands-after-an-engine-drops-off.htmlAustralia's Qantas has been having major incidents of late like exploded engines, decompressed chambers etc. http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/11/06/3058911.htmAs you can see, worse things have happened to first world airlines. So KQ shouldn't be demonised.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 12/9/2010 Posts: 894 Location: Nairobi
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this is negligence of the highest order. Don't wait for the Last Judgment. It happens every day. ~Albert Camus, The Fall, 1956
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2007 Posts: 8,776 Location: Cameroon
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@jason big up! Kenyans na kupayuka! They just need to google airline mishaps n realize how safe KQ has been compared to some "major" airlines. We truly hate ourselves TULIA.........UFUNZWE!
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Rank: Member Joined: 8/8/2009 Posts: 170
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As far as replacing their "aging fleet", it looks like KNAL will have to wait a bit longer... what with Boeing pushing the dreamliner debut back a further 8 months .... First delivery is expected in October this year. Note however that Kenya Airways is number 20 something on the delivery list..... probable delivery date is likely - 2014. It remains to be seen if TN has the cojones to switch to Airbus ... Link: http://atwonline.com/air...s-first-delivery-delaye
http://www.arabianbusine...-boeing-ceo-375511.html
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/17/2009 Posts: 399 Location: Where everyone knows you
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@all. Sit back and THINK.
@ jasonhill & jaggernaut . GREAT comments. You guy are correct. @ RichVee. pole sana bwana. What you describe as your 'problems" are nothing if you are a regular air traveller. I am going on KQ next Sunday. Do you think I will change my mind. I suggest you read @jasonhill earlier post. We complain about little things that go wrong with KQ - yet we accept BIG things that go wrong with western airlines. I think maybe we have a chip on our shoulder.
By the way I have been to the US more than 30 times, the Uk almost 100 times. Add to that about 50 flights to the other parts of Europe, Far East, Australia and other parts of Asia. Dont even ask me how many flights I have had withen Africa and Kenya.
Kenya Airways is as good as they come. And I DONT have any KQ shares.
Regards and peace guys & girls
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Rank: User Joined: 5/9/2010 Posts: 1,418 Location: Nai
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@ MatataMingi. i totally support u. guyz need to chill and relax and think what they are sayin.Trashin KQ lik it was an access kenya of the airline industry show allot of misinformation..i am shockd at sound minds at wazua equating tis stock to express and the like . I wish mis placed emotions show cased her wld translate at the stock price then i wld really buy cheap from those panic selling... KQ is a great co. and lets keep it like that.. Your future depends on your dreams so go to sleep !
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/25/2009 Posts: 4,534 Location: Windhoek/Nairobbery
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So no effect on the share price even if tires are falling airbourne let the release 3Q passenger numbers and the haters will eat the dust...LMAO!!!!
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