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Block of flats for sale.
pm
#11 Posted : Wednesday, June 03, 2009 7:55:00 PM
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who controls the area ... ;)

The number of bedrooms mixture is a nightmare,you never want to mix sitters,one,two,three bedrooms flats ...

For 40m,you can do better!
Evolve
#12 Posted : Thursday, June 04, 2009 7:13:00 AM
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@pm,

Thanks for the observation. I had not thought about the 3br ensuite mix. I thought it was a good idea but on hindsight,this is not what I should be going for if the objective is to maximise on rental to make a decent return.
Pablo
#13 Posted : Thursday, June 04, 2009 9:27:00 AM
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Looks like I am behind. Bedsitters in Donholm are going for 10k?. I thot South B Bedsitters go for 8k.


Be greedy when others are fearful,be fearful when others are greedy.
McReggae
#14 Posted : Thursday, June 04, 2009 9:35:00 AM
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Pablo,you must really be behind!!!!!

The chief value of money lies in the fact that one lives in a world in which it is overestimated.
..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
fantony
#15 Posted : Thursday, June 04, 2009 11:08:00 AM
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while Pablo may not be upto date there is a point about the projected rentals. Is it achievable in this area?

1 br @ 14,000 ??? i dont think so.
starr
#16 Posted : Thursday, June 04, 2009 1:44:00 PM
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donholm is one of the more lucrative areas for rentals. you have a nice building there and you will be in some nice moneys. demand by the working class is massive. serves people working in town,industrial area and the airport.

goals - does any of the proposed bypasses go through donholm? i do not think so. this is my first time to hear that.

pm/evolve - i do not see the issue with the mixture in units. please shed light. i would only have a problem if a flat has a large proportion of bedsitter units. managing them can be a nightmare.
Evolve
#17 Posted : Thursday, June 04, 2009 2:00:00 PM
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@ Starr,



My angle of reason is based on the demand for 3br ensuite in the area? It would make more sense to have more 2B/r and 1 b/r than 3 the 3b/r ones as the renatl incomes would even be higher. I have verified this from the property in South B with mainly 2b/r,1b/r and bedsitters whose actual total rental income is Kshs 461K.
half_empty
#18 Posted : Thursday, June 04, 2009 2:36:00 PM
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it cost about 25M to put up similar structure incl cost of land...

I would have said something smarter..but the moment passed
pm
#19 Posted : Thursday, June 04, 2009 2:42:00 PM
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@starr / @evolve,






Normal 0


First,07/08 election violence and it's effect on housing cannot be ignored,if you've got your ears to the ground,you'll see / hear major adjustments in the housing market as a result of that violence,others are still trying to recover... my second point was,the flats are a combination of 3bd ensuit,3bd,2bd,1bd & sitters ... which combines singles,married and families living,my experience is that all three have differing lifestyles/needs that are not necessarily compatible ... ask yourself,would a family man with wife and kids want to be living next to a bachelor whose lifestyle is radically different... During our research Dec/March we found many flats of such a mixture with very low occupancy rate because families kept on moving out. Some familymen had issues going to work and leaving wife next to a bachelor bent on warming up to wife ;( ... due to differing needs /lifestyles of family / bachelor ... its not a good idea to have a mixed housing like in the case of these flats ... I hope that helps ;)

@evolve,can you edit out that blank space in your first posting ... ;)
Eddy
#20 Posted : Thursday, June 04, 2009 6:00:00 PM
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@half

Fully agreed,in most cases the actual cost will be about 25M and for the sellers the markups are handsome in the range of 100%.

The 'actual cost' works out to recovery through current rent at 5 years and hence as a buyer you should recover it within 8-10 yrs.
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