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Real Estate Investment A necessary Evil
young
#1 Posted : Sunday, December 26, 2010 10:28:03 PM
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This serves as my final word this year on property investment.

Year 2008 - 2010 can be termed as my years of land acquisition as I channeled all resources and intellect to acquire promising plots in various locations as a way of positioning for future development. I was really a novice in this area as all I knew about investment was stocks. Luckily for me I have been able to take positions in serviced and semi serviced plots that had flexible payment plans ranging from 12 months to 36 months in organized estates in two cities in my country Nigeria and some in emerging neighboring Ghana. The task ahead is to gradually develop them .

Real Estate is an evil because it is very illiquid, it is a very long term investment.
If you need cash you cannot sell one room in your house or slice a portion of your land to solve financisl problems, to buy it back at a future date. This sounds crazy in real estate terms but it is a reality with other investments.


Necessary because real estate is the king of all assets in Africa, as you can never go wrong . This is because demand for housing consistently outstrip supply in most African countries as people migrate in droves from rural areas to urban centers to seek greener pastures.Govts have no solution to the upsurge in demand for housing as they do not have the wherewithal and will power to address the housing deficit problem. There is no owner occupier mass housing schemes for low income and middle income groups as what is obtained in developed countries. For now there is no solution in sight.This reason is a superior arguement to Somali pirates factor in Kenya Property prices, as the pirates will only be interested in cash and carry high end property but not plots of land in the popular mombassa road and Thika road axis of Nairobi.
Mortgage facilities from financial institutions are grossly inadequate as it does not address the needs of small and low income groups, and the self employed. There is a limit to what organized cooperatives (Saccos) can do.

Let me conclude this piecce with what one Mzee in his late 70s told me out of excitement when I told him that in addition to stocks I have diverrsified into real estate to diversify my asset base as I am planning to retire from paid employment in few yeasrs time. Permit me to recall what he said verbatim in bold Italics :-


Young, as you have decided to invest in real estate which is always appreciating, I regard it as something that could last you for ever.

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whynow
#2 Posted : Tuesday, December 28, 2010 9:08:51 AM
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Young I will respond later in detail. Real Estate is the way to go. I can only encourage you. I started investing early. Unlike what guys say that you have to own a house, i decided to develop rental units. I left employed at a early age and i am now eating my real estate returns. Am at liberty to determine what to do any given day. My life style is so different from the norm I sometimes wonder whether i made a mistake.
fuchu
#3 Posted : Tuesday, December 28, 2010 10:00:06 AM
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@Young: I did venture into Reals estate as a developer a few months ago. the returns were handsome. I intend to put more effort into developing houses for sale for our brothers and sisters who cannot stand the fundis. At some point, I'll put up some rental units.

Real Estate, watch this space.
kizee1
#4 Posted : Tuesday, December 28, 2010 7:36:03 PM
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@fuchu and whynow...wat are the two hot areas in nairobi where u would put up rentals? if not nairobi what other towns have potential?
mpobiz
#5 Posted : Tuesday, December 28, 2010 11:42:30 PM
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kizee1 wrote:
@fuchu and whynow...wat are the two hot areas in nairobi where u would put up rentals? if not nairobi what other towns have potential?





kitengela . athiriver. mlolongo
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kizee1
#6 Posted : Tuesday, December 28, 2010 11:52:18 PM
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mpobiz...wats the cost of an acre in those three areas? whats the rental income for a 1 and or 2 bedrrom flat?
mpobiz
#7 Posted : Wednesday, December 29, 2010 1:14:26 AM
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kizee1 wrote:
mpobiz...wats the cost of an acre in those three areas? whats the rental income for a 1 and or 2 bedrrom flat?




sorry to disappoint you but in commercially viable areas in kitengela and athiriver(for rentals) to get an acre can be a bit difficult. the most you can get is 1/8 or 1/4 of an acre.
in mlolongo its a bit different 1 acre plots are available but cost as much as 15m

income also varies depending on location .rent falls between 7000 to 12000 for 2bedroom flat.currently kitengela is facing a 2bedroom flat shortage demand is high.
Politics is just things to keep the people divided and foolish and put your trust in men and none of them can do nothing for you...
kizee1
#8 Posted : Wednesday, December 29, 2010 1:43:26 PM
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i see...and how much for said quarter and half acres?
mpobiz
#9 Posted : Wednesday, December 29, 2010 10:24:47 PM
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from 2 to 3m for 1/8
from 3 to 4m for the 1/4
this only applies to commercial plots ready for development
Politics is just things to keep the people divided and foolish and put your trust in men and none of them can do nothing for you...
young
#10 Posted : Saturday, January 08, 2011 11:02:11 PM
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Looking back I think real estate professionals and investors by nature do not blow their trumpets, or talk about the enormous profits inherent in this silent business.

Capital gains in multiples on plots appreciation is just the tip of the iceberg. Developing your plot yourself after getting requisite skills and out sourcing where necessary with direct supevision and putting a finished building on offer for sale or to let, is something else in terms of returns.

I have always thought my only business with property was to build a house to live , it has never crossed my mind a few years back that one can actually invest in property to make gains. I wonder why ? I was pre-occupied and overwhelmed with stocks investment.

At last I have finally been able to strike a balance to broaden my investment horizon.

The fact is the earlier or younger one realises the importance of real estate investment in black Africa the better.

For me it is better late than never.
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youcan'tstopusnow
#11 Posted : Sunday, January 09, 2011 10:21:00 PM
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young, but don't you think the initial capital required for real estate development is high? Thus the reason why most people tend to start off with stocks?
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young
#12 Posted : Wednesday, January 12, 2011 1:18:11 PM
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@Youcant,

Refer to the post titled "Real Estate Financial Hurdles"
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For Sport
#13 Posted : Wednesday, January 12, 2011 6:12:08 PM
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@ young. Vary informative articles. Anything on "Real Estate Legal Hurdles?"
Know someone who thought they'd done due diligence but has their cash tied up because of disputed ownership (plot had two sets of documentation).

Information from anyone out there on shortest period it took to process title documents after purchase?

You never go wrong with real estate unless you get it wrong at the transaction stage.
fuchu
#14 Posted : Friday, January 14, 2011 11:18:41 AM
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For Sport wrote:
@ young. Vary informative articles. Anything on "Real Estate Legal Hurdles?"
Know someone who thought they'd done due diligence but has their cash tied up because of disputed ownership (plot had two sets of documentation).

Information from anyone out there on shortest period it took to process title documents after purchase?

You never go wrong with real estate unless you get it wrong at the transaction stage.



Processing of title documents has many factors into it. The latest one is that there were no Title Papers at Kajiado since dec last year. the ideal shortest time is say 2 weeks, when you've got well connected guys to push all the paper work.

@ For Sport, I concur
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