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Finally the EPL kicks off!
jawz1
#701 Posted : Tuesday, December 21, 2010 6:49:53 AM
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Manchester City lost 2:1 to Everton! A match played with 10 players each for either side and in absolutely wicked -6 degrees of cold.

If Man City had won, they could have gone top of the Premiership table for the first time since the 1929-30 EPL season!

Hats of to Everton! Applause It won't be such a merry Christmas for Mancini and his men...

Unpredictable league so far...
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smano
#702 Posted : Tuesday, December 21, 2010 8:42:24 AM
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I'm starting to get worried about the postponement of matches...I would have preferred if we'd met Chelsea on the back of our good run of form and while they were still recovering i.e. Lampard just back so not exactly match fit and Drogba still not at 100%.

Now, who knows when the game will be played and what form Chelsea will be in. The other thing is that there are still going to be more postponements since the snow is coming in thick and fast...what it'll result in is a time when a team will play up to 4 games in a week (heard it happened to Aston Villa sometime back)!

You can be sure that when that happens, only the teams with depth and not involved in too many competitions will survive. I really pray the Arsenal Chelsea game happens so that we can have a better picture of the standings...Arsenal have been awful at home and coupled with the lack of tenacity in games against the big two (in the words of Cesc) I see Chelsea winning maybe 2-1
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#703 Posted : Tuesday, December 21, 2010 3:23:53 PM
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smano wrote:
I'm starting to get worried about the postponement of matches...I would have preferred if we'd met Chelsea on the back of our good run of form and while they were still recovering i.e. Lampard just back so not exactly match fit and Drogba still not at 100%.

Now, who knows when the game will be played and what form Chelsea will be in. The other thing is that there are still going to be more postponements since the snow is coming in thick and fast...what it'll result in is a time when a team will play up to 4 games in a week (heard it happened to Aston Villa sometime back)!

You can be sure that when that happens, only the teams with depth and not involved in too many competitions will survive. I really pray the Arsenal Chelsea game happens so that we can have a better picture of the standings...Arsenal have been awful at home and coupled with the lack of tenacity in games against the big two (in the words of Cesc) I see Chelsea winning maybe 2-1


Amen!
mwenza
#704 Posted : Tuesday, December 21, 2010 7:09:38 PM
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winston wrote:
smano wrote:
I'm starting to get worried about the postponement of matches...I would have preferred if we'd met Chelsea on the back of our good run of form and while they were still recovering i.e. Lampard just back so not exactly match fit and Drogba still not at 100%.

Now, who knows when the game will be played and what form Chelsea will be in. The other thing is that there are still going to be more postponements since the snow is coming in thick and fast...what it'll result in is a time when a team will play up to 4 games in a week (heard it happened to Aston Villa sometime back)!

You can be sure that when that happens, only the teams with depth and not involved in too many competitions will survive. I really pray the Arsenal Chelsea game happens so that we can have a better picture of the standings...Arsenal have been awful at home and coupled with the lack of tenacity in games against the big two (in the words of Cesc) I see Chelsea winning maybe 2-1


Amen!



That scoreline is unrealistic since aseno can't score against chelsea.

Read Cesc Fabregas comments carefully.
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mwenza
#705 Posted : Tuesday, December 21, 2010 7:19:13 PM
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@TAZ..............Kumbe hata Wilshere hajulikani?

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Manchester City striker Mario Balotelli claimed he has never heard of Arsenal starlet Jack Wilshere when picking up the Tuttosport Golden Boy trophy on Tuesday.

Balotelli, who has barely played for City due to injury after joining the Eastlands club from Inter Milan in the summer, beat off competition from Wilshere to win the award, which recognises the best player under the age of 21.

Wilshere, a full England international, is seen as one of the brightest young prospects in the Premier League.

"I am delighted to receive this award,'' said Balotelli to Tuttosport. "Who should have won this award but me? Two years ago I finished sixth and a year ago fourth. It was finally my turn.

"I don't know who Wilshere is but the next time I play against Arsenal I will keep a close eye on him.
"Perhaps I can show him (Wilshere) the Golden Boy trophy and remind him that I won it!

"My aim is that this prize will, in the near future, transform itself into the Golden Ball Award. To have won this award is a good omen to achieve that.

"All I ask for is two things: to win the Premier League, in order to continue with the tradition I had at Inter of winning three consecutive league titles, and to clinch the Europa League - a trophy that I have not yet won, and a competition where we are considered favourites."

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smano
#706 Posted : Wednesday, December 22, 2010 7:55:50 AM
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mwenza wrote:
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That scoreline is unrealistic since aseno can't score against chelsea.

Read Cesc Fabregas comments carefully.



Chelsea have been unconvincing at the back hence the prediction
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TAZ
#707 Posted : Wednesday, December 22, 2010 8:31:28 AM
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Balotelli also managed to slight Manchester United’s Wayne Rooney, Arsenal captain Cesc Fabregas and Tottenham’s Rafael van der Vaart – all former winners of the award – by saying only one previous Golden Boy was better than him: “There’s only one that is a little stronger than me: [Lionel] Messi. All the others are behind me. The 20-year-old has shown only glimpses of talent since a £22m summer move from Inter Milan, but did not attempt false modesty on collecting his gong.

“I am delighted to receive the award, but who should have won it but me?” he said. “Two years ago I finished sixth, and then fourth in 2009. It was finally my turn.

I think Balotelli is one of the most over-rated players we have in football at the moment. I've never really seen anything special from this guy. Jack Wilshere is only 18 yrs Old yet he has already earned himself several call-ups to the National team. I really don't think Balotelli has a future in the English Premier League, his arrogance and lack of discipline everywhere will be his downfall.

“Because I am rich” – Balotelli’s response to police who asked why he was carrying £5,000 in cash

smano
#708 Posted : Wednesday, December 22, 2010 8:53:14 AM
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I agree with you Taz, Balotelli is just an arrogant attention deprived brat...but, if his raw talent was to be harnessed and he stopped the drama both on and off field, he'd be a force to reckon with - I say that as someone who has played football for a long time and can see deft touches from him that scream inborn talent.

I doubt the later will ever happen (an end to the drama that is)
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MaichBlack
#709 Posted : Wednesday, December 22, 2010 9:12:09 AM
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smano wrote:
I agree with you Taz, Balotelli is just an arrogant attention deprived brat...but, if his raw talent was to be harnessed and he stopped the drama both on and off field, he'd be a force to reckon with - I say that as someone who has played football for a long time and can see deft touches from him that scream inborn talent.

I doubt the later will ever happen (an end to the drama that is)

Only one person can harness that raw talent while nipping his arrogance in the bud finally turning him to a world class player. Sir Alex Ferguson! Too bad for Balotelli coz his chances of ever being cached by SAF are slim to none!
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tuvok
#710 Posted : Wednesday, December 22, 2010 9:26:44 AM
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An ego the size of Mt Everest. He should try to emulate Messi (and the rest of the Golden Boys indeed) and let his football do the talking. But then he's a Prima Donna with attention seeking tendencies.
TAZ
#711 Posted : Wednesday, December 22, 2010 9:35:57 AM
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MaichBlack wrote:
smano wrote:
I agree with you Taz, Balotelli is just an arrogant attention deprived brat...but, if his raw talent was to be harnessed and he stopped the drama both on and off field, he'd be a force to reckon with - I say that as someone who has played football for a long time and can see deft touches from him that scream inborn talent.

I doubt the later will ever happen (an end to the drama that is)

Only one person can harness that raw talent while nipping his arrogance in the bud finally turning him to a world class player. Sir Alex Ferguson! Too bad for Balotelli coz his chances of ever being cached by SAF are slim to none!


I don't quite agree with you, SAF has never been good at handling arrogant players especially the over-rated ones. Ronaldo, Beckham, Ruud Van & Tevez were all sold after they became problematic....SAF has always lacked the influence he would want to have over "non-english" players. That explains why he always jumps at the opportunity to sign a player from England, Wales, Ireland etc.

A player like Balotelli can't survive in the EPL, he sometimes reminds of Adebayor. I really can't understand why he chose to represent a country which has always insulted him.

MaichBlack
#712 Posted : Wednesday, December 22, 2010 9:45:24 AM
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tuvok wrote:
An ego the size of Mt Everest. He should try to emulate Messi (and the rest of the Golden Boys indeed) and let his football do the talking. But then he's a Prima Donna with attention seeking tendencies.

Maybe we should just blame his rough childhood. See link below:

Life and Times of Mario Balotelli
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#713 Posted : Wednesday, December 22, 2010 9:55:15 AM
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TAZ wrote:
I don't quite agree with you, SAF has never been good at handling arrogant players especially the over-rated ones. Ronaldo, Beckham, Ruud Van & Tevez were all sold after they became problematic...

All these players plus more [apart from Ronaldo] were offloaded against their wish and when they were at the summit. These shows you that SAF doesn't entertain nonsense. With SAF, no one can ever be bigger than the club. If you want to stay, then you shut up and put up! As for Ronaldo, it was always obvious he would leave [given his love for Real since childhood, language, proximity to home country etc.] and even then, he was not allowed to leave when he wanted and SAF managed to get a world record transfer fee for him.
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TAZ
#714 Posted : Wednesday, December 22, 2010 9:58:10 AM
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MaichBlack wrote:
TAZ wrote:
I don't quite agree with you, SAF has never been good at handling arrogant players especially the over-rated ones. Ronaldo, Beckham, Ruud Van & Tevez were all sold after they became problematic...

All these players plus more [apart from Ronaldo] were offloaded against their wish and when they were at the summit. These shows you that SAF doesn't entertain nonsense. With SAF, no one can ever be bigger than the club. If you want to stay, then you shut up and put up! As for Ronaldo, it was always obvious he would live [given his love for Real since childhood, language, proximity to home country etc.] and even then, he was not allowed to leave when he wanted and SAF managed to get a world record transfer fee for him.


True, that's why i think Balotelli would have been sold very fast by SAF.
Buster
#715 Posted : Wednesday, December 22, 2010 10:12:32 AM
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@ Taz, I do not agree with you. SAF buys English/British players because this is their land and to win localyy you need a backbone of local lads.

Tevez left because in his own words he felt let down because SAF preferd to buy Berbatov instead of him.

Rudboy became a bad influence on the team and could not agree with Keane,Ronaldo and Rooney. ( 3 against 1) guess who had to leave...

We all know what Beckham wanted, stardom, babysitting while wife shopping instead of training... He has always said that He was sold against his wishes.

As for Ronaldo, everyone knows that His heart has always been with Real Madrid.

Saf is always refered to as the man who can tame any Egotistic player that he wants on his squad.

Wenger got tested with only one player and gave up so easily! (Lass Diarra). Rememeber him? What a loss!!!
TAZ
#716 Posted : Wednesday, December 22, 2010 10:37:13 AM
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Buster wrote:
@ Taz, I do not agree with you. SAF buys English/British players because this is their land and to win localyy you need a backbone of local lads.

Tevez left because in his own words he felt let down because SAF preferd to buy Berbatov instead of him.

Rudboy became a bad influence on the team and could not agree with Keane,Ronaldo and Rooney. ( 3 against 1) guess who had to leave...

We all know what Beckham wanted, stardom, babysitting while wife shopping instead of training... He has always said that He was sold against his wishes.

As for Ronaldo, everyone knows that His heart has always been with Real Madrid.

Saf is always refered to as the man who can tame any Egotistic player that he wants on his squad.

Wenger got tested with only one player and gave up so easily! (Lass Diarra). Rememeber him? What a loss!!!


I totally agree with you but SAF deals with those sort of players by selling them. "Foreign players" have always given him a big headache.

Wenger on the other hand is no better but he also has his way with French players....Lassana Diarra was signed from Chelsea but he was not an important player for Arsenal because we had Flamini then. He was a bench warmer and actually left after only 5 months....for Portsmouth.
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#717 Posted : Wednesday, December 22, 2010 10:59:07 AM
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No no Taz, Lass was sold because he insisted on playing all games or else... He kept on telling Wenger and anybody who could listen that He was the best midfield player that Arsenal have. wenger asked Him to be patient and learn from The treatment the Beckham got at real but Lass would have none of that, so he had to be sold like you said after only 5 Months. This goes to show Wenger cannot handle pressure from his own players unlike SAf.
TAZ
#718 Posted : Wednesday, December 22, 2010 11:03:20 AM
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On 31 August 2007, transfer deadline day, Diarra signed for Arsenal for an undisclosed fee.[5] He was given the number 8 shirt, vacated by the departure of winger Freddie Ljungberg. On his move across London, he cited Gunners manager Arsène Wenger as one of the main reasons for joining the club, along with the style of football played by Arsenal. Wenger had called the young Frenchman a "multi-functional player", and a good addition to the squad.[6]

Diarra made his Arsenal debut as a late substitute in the home leg of the 2007–08 Champions League group stage match against Sevilla, and his full debut against Newcastle United in the third round of the League Cup. Diarra started his first Premier League match for Arsenal against Aston Villa.

With the emergence of defensive midfielder Mathieu Flamini in the Arsenal side, Diarra saw only limited action in the early months of the season. Having expressed concerns that he was not playing enough first team football,[7] Diarra signed for Portsmouth in January 2008 after only 5 months at Arsenal for an undisclosed fee believed to be around £5.5 million
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#719 Posted : Wednesday, December 22, 2010 12:41:10 PM
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How many players have left arsenal and have been successful and happy?
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#720 Posted : Wednesday, December 22, 2010 12:53:42 PM
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nostoppingthis wrote:
How many players have left arsenal and have been successful and happy?

How many have remained and have been successful and happy??Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
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