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Kplc restructure plan out
githundi
#451 Posted : Wednesday, December 15, 2010 6:47:56 PM
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2012 wrote:
Question, is the market still open? This was planned long before and that's why these govt. rights are being floated on the last day! CMA this is not fair trade, it's equivalent to insider trading sanctioned by the regulator.

@ 2012, this is painfully true, why not let the shareholders have them?. Kinyua alikuwa na mpango with some big boys to make millions coz you can tell he could have made more than 80 m. He should be forced to resign with all the other guys involved: NSE and CMA in this plot . They timed when Ocampo was naming suspects but they can't fool Wazuans. Some guys have made millions today! Thats why the gap btn the rich and the poor will keep widening. They also make small investor loose confidence in anything govt wants to privatise. Lesson no. 1 learned : Small investors can never make money from gok coz of endemic corruption.
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Tommy
#452 Posted : Wednesday, December 15, 2010 7:29:33 PM
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the kplc rights have closed dramaticaly especially on the day ocampo is figting impunity from outside. with some investor buying the right at 0.45, it makes those who bought at 4.50 look thick.
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sparkly
#453 Posted : Wednesday, December 15, 2010 8:16:24 PM
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Window dressing by Treasury. For 2 weeks they didn't bother to bring their rights to the market, despite over advertising. On the last date they rush the rights and barely sell half, at throw away prices. No threat to proceeds expected by kplc since 50% is under written. Looks like the govt just wanted to convert its pref shares with a minimal shake-up in the current share holding, at the expense of returning the best return to the taxpayer. No problem, except that it gave insiders and crooks an opportunity to make a killing. @vvs i agree with you that the govt should just have renounced their rights in favor of the minority, then they would have been valued objectively by the market.
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guru267
#454 Posted : Wednesday, December 15, 2010 8:51:25 PM
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2012 wrote:
Question, is the market still open? This was planned long before and that's why these govt. rights are being floated on the last day! CMA this is not fair trade, it's equivalent to insider trading sanctioned by the regulator.

@2012 did you read your PAL? You are entitled to sell your rights to anyone you please privately even your spouse if you see fit...

So it was well within G.O.K's right to sell to whoever they wanted...

Just apply for additional rights because not all gova rights were traded
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Deuteronomy 4:16
TUPAC
#455 Posted : Thursday, December 16, 2010 8:22:50 AM
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jerry wrote:
TUPAC wrote:
youcan'tstopusnow wrote:
TUPAC, but why would the government not bring its rights to the market?

@youcantstpnw so that they are picked by equity and centum disguising that they are lapsed rights whereas in real sense only a few are brought to the market!

@tupac. Ur view seems logical. Why underwrite a good stock? How many rights have been traded so far? Methinks huge deals(already concluded) will be flashed! thro the mrkt on tue/wed at premium of 1-1.50.

looks like this scenerio played out yesterday. so now more than 150M government rights lapsed and are up for grabs as extra rights.
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invest0r
#456 Posted : Thursday, December 16, 2010 9:02:18 AM
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guru267 wrote:
2012 wrote:
Question, is the market still open? This was planned long before and that's why these govt. rights are being floated on the last day! CMA this is not fair trade, it's equivalent to insider trading sanctioned by the regulator.

@2012 did you read your PAL? You are entitled to sell your rights to anyone you please privately even your spouse if you see fit...

So it was well within G.O.K's right to sell to whoever they wanted...

Just apply for additional rights because not all gova rights were traded


@guru i thought we the public are the kenya and our representatives should act in the best interest of the public. the gok should have done better. plo needs to look into this kplc rights scandal Liar Liar Liar
Sober
#457 Posted : Thursday, December 16, 2010 9:08:19 AM
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thanks to the end of the open game. now e have to play an in-house one for the existing shareholders. forget about yesterday's drama when the GOK had to have extra time when indeed nothing was done in the 90 mins fair play.
i am applying for the maximum possible extra allocation until the allocators will be wondering who this small shareholder thinks he is.
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ngapat
#458 Posted : Thursday, December 16, 2010 9:19:21 AM
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whats the effect of the rights issue. think it'll dilute the share value, i.e what is kplc PE ratio be4 and after the rights
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guru267
#459 Posted : Thursday, December 16, 2010 10:15:02 AM
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ngapat wrote:
whats the effect of the rights issue. think it'll dilute the share value, i.e what is kplc PE ratio be4 and after the rights


@ngapat i think what matters most is the ratio after the rights issue..

After the rights issue there will be a total of 1.734 billion shares against net profit of 3.716

This gives an earnings per share of 2.15..


Hence a trailing P/E of 10.6..
This while the sector P/E is at 15.5
And the market P/E at 16

This is one of the reasons it is undervalued..
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Deuteronomy 4:16
the deal
#460 Posted : Thursday, December 16, 2010 12:17:43 PM
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the NSE should be taken to the Hague for stopping trading Jana...i think the rights issue wont attain over subscription....
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