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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/7/2010 Posts: 2,148 Location: elderville
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kadonye wrote:Elder wrote:callaspade wrote:......excessive force should have used by the police to stop the senseless killings ,rapes and violence.
...thats why they are employed !!!!
You sure you know what excessive means? If so then according to you policemen are employed to use excessive force? I'm amazed at how superhuman wazuans can be Can imagine a karao saying 'wacheni kuiba na kuchoma,mnajua Mungu anawaona?wacheni kuua huyo mzee hajalipa fees ya next year, wacheni kunajisi huyo mama, hiyo ni tabia mbaya' You are either insisiting on this line of thought just for the sake of it or you are a certifiable idiot. Unfortunately the more I read your posts in this thread the more I think it is the latter. There is actually a difference between the police using FORCE and EXCESSIVE FORCE. The law has a problem with the latter not the former. You on the other hand are all over the place with your posts. He who can express in words the ardour of his love, has but little love to express. - Petrach, Son. (That men by various ways arrive at the same end. - Montaigne, The Essays of.)
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/7/2007 Posts: 11,935 Location: Nairobi
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The circus just began.......Kosgey willing to talk....hahahaha!!! Nothing great was ever achieved without enthusiasm.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 5/30/2009 Posts: 1,390
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@wendz, I actually was in Kisumu before it had cooled off kabisa.I heard firsthand from witnesses(probably even some goons).I'm not relying on media for info I do not condone shooting of demonstartors.That is criminal.Lakini wanajisi na wale wakora wengine waliopigwa risasi walipata haki yao What a wicked man I am!The things I want to do,I don't do.The things I don't want to do I find myself doing
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/9/2009 Posts: 1,491 Location: Nairobi
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kadonye wrote:Elder wrote:callaspade wrote:......excessive force should have used by the police to stop the senseless killings ,rapes and violence.
...thats why they are employed !!!!
You sure you know what excessive means? If so then according to you policemen are employed to use excessive force? I'm amazed at how superhuman wazuans can be Can imagine a karao saying 'wacheni kuiba na kuchoma,mnajua Mungu anawaona?wacheni kuua huyo mzee hajalipa fees ya next year, wacheni kunajisi huyo mama, hiyo ni tabia mbaya' Kadonye you must be in the police force their is no way you can defend Ali wen u know very well excessive force and shoot to kill orders violates human rights acts aende hague kabisa Kenya ni yetu sisi sote
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/15/2006 Posts: 3,905
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Breaking News: Capital FM Newsbeat 17:00hrs
Everybody's conscience is clean...
Ocampo political machinations...
I will be proven innocent...
Unjustly accused...
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,821 Location: Nairobi
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I am with you Kadonye...he who lives by the sword shall die by the same. All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 5/30/2009 Posts: 1,390
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Elder wrote:
There is actually a difference between the police using FORCE and EXCESSIVE FORCE. The law has a problem with the latter not the former. You on the other hand are all over the place with your posts.
Let's ignore the first part of your reply What kind of FORCE would you have used? What constitutes excessive force? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Police_brutalityWhat a wicked man I am!The things I want to do,I don't do.The things I don't want to do I find myself doing
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/14/2007 Posts: 4,152
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Kadonye.....I actually don't think Ali's case will be as complicated as Ruto's & Uhuru. So far the guy has behaved like he doesn't give a rat's *** what Ocampo says. Btw, this Arap Sang guy is not a 'big fish'
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/20/2007 Posts: 4,432
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I'm still wondering why Mutotho bill creators aren't this list. My booze is stale. Jose: If I make it through this thug life, I'll see you one day. The Lord is the only way to stop the hurt.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/7/2007 Posts: 11,935 Location: Nairobi
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alma wrote:I'm still wondering why Mutotho bill creators aren't this list. My booze is stale. @Alma, Ngai!!....Tangu saa zile?.You must be pangaria by now  Nothing great was ever achieved without enthusiasm.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 5/30/2009 Posts: 1,390
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dossy7 wrote:Kadonye you must be in the police force their is no way you can defend Ali wen u know very well excessive force and shoot to kill orders violates human rights acts aende hague kabisa No I'm not a policeman...but shoot to kill is sometimes inevitable I get the feeling that most people here did not lose a loved one or did not come to a point where they needed police help What a wicked man I am!The things I want to do,I don't do.The things I don't want to do I find myself doing
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/20/2007 Posts: 4,432
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Njung'e wrote:alma wrote:I'm still wondering why Mutotho bill creators aren't this list. My booze is stale. @Alma, Ngai!!....Tangu sa zile?.You must be pangaria by now Mimi bado naona kidogo. We're planning to go with my lakeside neighbour far away from Mututho's reach. I'm celebrating and he's celebrating that Raila is as white as cotton from Kisumu.  Hii post has become too serious....Ocampo has spoken and the reli is still around...let's burp! shelebrate christmas before PLO's new year present next week...burp! Jose: If I make it through this thug life, I'll see you one day. The Lord is the only way to stop the hurt.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/19/2008 Posts: 4,268
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masukuma wrote:I am with you Kadonye...he who lives by the sword shall die by the same. yeleleleleiye yaaaiyeee!!!!!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/7/2007 Posts: 11,935 Location: Nairobi
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@Alma, .....I am out of this effing place.Here i come dear Rhoda! Nothing great was ever achieved without enthusiasm.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/15/2006 Posts: 3,905
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Muthaura, Kenyatta, Ali; ICC Excerpts: (5 counts against civilians) Count 1 - Murder constituting a crime against humanity ...murder of civilian supporters of ODM in or around Kisumu Town, Kibera, Naivasha town...Count 2 - Deportation or forcible transfer of population ...transfer of civilian population supporting ODM around Nakuru and Naivasha town...Count 3 - Rape and other forms of sexual violence constituting a crime against humanity Count 4 - Other inhumane acts constituting a crime against humanity Count 5 - Persecution as a crime against humanity Ruto, Kosgey, Sang; ICC Excerpts: (4 counts against civilians) Count 1 - Murder constituting a crime against humanity Count 2 - Deportation or forcible transfer of population Count 3 - Torture constituting a crime against humanity Count 4 - Persecution as a crime against humanity ICC Link: http://www.icc-cpi.int/m...0and%20highlights/pr615
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Rank: Elder Joined: 5/24/2007 Posts: 1,805
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Ok good people, Now we have vented. Let us go and celebrate anything that comes to mind. I will Celebrate that the fellows seem to have taken it well ( apart from WR) and have agreed to use their tickets I will celebrate todays Jamhuri day for Kenya. @ alma and Njunge, ningojeeni hapo kwa wanjiru. Bill ni yangu leo..lol! I Think Therefore I Am
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Rank: Member Joined: 10/4/2007 Posts: 656
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For heavens sake ALI didnt deserve to be in that list...he was just a servant taking orders from above...that "Above" that gavee orders should be in that list!!! The way I am
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/23/2008 Posts: 3,017
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masukuma wrote:I am with you Kadonye...he who lives by the sword shall die by the same. @ Masukuma, And that quote arrests the case against Ali. He was happy to hold the sword by the handle, now lets see his reaction with the blade pointed towards him. Now tell us about other people who should be on the list. I hope all those who knowingly participated in the PEV are caught, tried and locked up for life. "The purpose of bureaucracy is to compensate for incompetence and lack of discipline." James Collins
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Rank: Member Joined: 9/19/2010 Posts: 237 Location: Republic of Graham & Doddsville
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None of the politicians mentioned or not supports the Ocampo list from either side of the political divide... They've obviously ganged up for convenience sake(the differences we were treated to in the formation of the boundaries commission has been put aside). Kweli politicians live in a different world from the rest of us!!! We Will Either Find a Way or Create One - HANNIBAL
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