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POST-MORTEM OF OCAMPO 6 NAMING...
Kaigangio
#1 Posted : Wednesday, December 15, 2010 3:04:49 PM
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hi all,

now that we have reached the climax of the ocampo naming of the 6 names, the kenyan political landscape has just changed for ever...we expect to see a lot of political activities and realignments in the near future but that is a story for another day.

in the meantime, apart from the 6 whose future political careers and ambitions have been shattered completely, we will start seing other casualties trickling in with time...

on the ODM side, RAOs problems (political and not related to ICC) have just began...his right hand man (kosgey) is gone together with his voting block...expect the rest to follow...

on the PNUs side, martha karuas problems have just began...she has been fighting UK indirectly...he is gone but she will not inherit the voting block...any other upright politician that the PNU friendly regions fall for will carry the day...wiper is not lucky either...why did he side with ruto the other day?? this will cost him...

on the supporters side, the KK will now have a very good reason for a combined block...after all they have a common problem and sentiments...

lastly, kenyans political reactions are too predictable...i hope my brothers from the lake will be allowed to travel to their christmas destinations through kericho or kapsabet..

over to you guys...what impact will this latest action by ocampo has on kenyas politics, socio-economic development etc...

...besides, the presence of a safe alone does not signify that there is money inside...
bwenyenye
#2 Posted : Wednesday, December 15, 2010 3:10:02 PM
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RAO Kwisha..! This is the ned of the road for the guy. Wacth this space.

SK could penya katikati with the new RV alliance.

MK has a good but very tough chance.
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kadonye
#3 Posted : Wednesday, December 15, 2010 6:14:03 PM
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I disagree kagizzard.RAO ako poa.His enemy has been nailed.Chairman Kosgey wasnt going to bring him much Kalenjin votes anyway.All his boys and girls are safe

Kalonzo-He may benefit from a lack of clear kings and queens in Central and among the Kalenjin but this is not clear as it may benefit Raila as well(esp Central)

Martha-She must be happy!Uhuru, her only clear opponent in GEMA politics is out

For the ordinary Kenyan,no change
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kadonye
#4 Posted : Wednesday, December 15, 2010 6:16:39 PM
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Kaigangio wrote:
hi all,

lastly, kenyans political reactions are too predictable...i hope my brothers from the lake will be allowed to travel to their christmas destinations through kericho or kapsabet..


On this I agree with you.Just check that 'list' thread with over 150 posts and witness our uniformity of thought,however wrong
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marex
#5 Posted : Wednesday, December 15, 2010 6:18:50 PM
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actually the opposite is true..The Kalenjin were not expected to vote for RAO..so he loses nothing there!!! Martha Karua's bargaining power has been enhanced by the exit of UK.....but for Kalonzo ..things remain the same!!!! no gain ...no loss..atabaki amelala pale pale tu!!
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murenj
#6 Posted : Wednesday, December 15, 2010 6:52:30 PM
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I have a feeling that this is the start of a long journey. With trials starting in 2012, when Baks is safely out of the way, ocampo night cut a deal with UK and Muthaura to Implicate KIBAKI then WHAM.......by then, he will be too insignificant to cause instability. Raila's will be a silent arrest warrant. He will find himself arrested in one of the european countries,
masukuma
#7 Posted : Wednesday, December 15, 2010 7:07:23 PM
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Putting things in perspective...
Next steps

The six expected to inform the Pre-Trial Chamber II their readiness to appear before the ICC judges.

The three-judge bench will weigh the merits of Mr Moreno-Ocampo’s application and could reject the request to issue a summons to appear, approve it or transform it into an arrest warrant. The Prosecutor expects this to happen in the first part of 2011.

If the chamber agrees with Mr Moreno-Ocampo’s request, the individuals identified will be expected to go to The Hague to make their initial appearance before the judges.

A public hearing to confirm the charges will be held.

It is at this stage where the judges review the evidence and decide whether it is enough to proceed to trial. The six individuals can be represented by their lawyers. The prosecutor expects this will happen in the second part of 2011 or the beginning of 2012.

The Pre-Trial Chamber II consisting of judges Hans-Peter Kaul, Ekaterina Trendafilova and Cuno Tarfusser will make a decision to confirm the charges and send the case to trial, amend or reject the charges.

Mr Moreno-Ocampo expects that the trial of the six would begin in the second part of 2012 or early 2013.
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slammers
#8 Posted : Wednesday, December 15, 2010 7:09:15 PM
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this wil c the rise of EW the weekend was just the begining
Impunity
#9 Posted : Wednesday, December 15, 2010 7:52:50 PM
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Nani EW?If this is the big mouth from Kitale then its pure shiet!
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simonkabz
#10 Posted : Thursday, December 16, 2010 6:50:26 AM
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Kagizzard those are my near-exact thoughts. Hako kalist kataroast RAO mbaya. A KK alliance is most likely, its already taking shape. violence sioni. Candidate???
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