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A CAR FOR A PLOT (LAND)
apogeus
#1 Posted : Sunday, December 12, 2010 12:39:36 AM
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do you have a car preferably an SUV valued from abt 1.5mil to 1.8mil
i am ready to BARTER with a commercial plot of land 1/8 acre in KITENGELA
if interested, email me for more details... njorogekite@gmail.com
apogeus
#2 Posted : Monday, December 13, 2010 10:51:44 PM
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please no RAV4 or XTRAILS
2300CC and over. DIESEL
Tommy
#3 Posted : Tuesday, December 14, 2010 5:00:49 AM
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this is interesting, why not sell the land n buy the car? don't u think that this may not lead to a fair deal
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apogeus
#4 Posted : Tuesday, December 14, 2010 11:26:22 AM
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Tommy wrote:
this is interesting, why not sell the land n buy the car? don't u think that this may not lead to a fair deal


fair deal to who? i have already sold 2 plots there, promising to buy a car. but i end up spending the money on other projects and i remain with my old car.
alikujia
#5 Posted : Tuesday, December 14, 2010 12:12:14 PM
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I think you need a common denominator of exchange to be fair to both sides i.e. money. otherwise one seems immovable while the other is very moving. just a thought.
apogeus
#6 Posted : Tuesday, December 14, 2010 12:42:57 PM
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alikujia wrote:
I think you need a common denominator of exchange to be fair to both sides i.e. money. otherwise one seems immovable while the other is very moving. just a thought.


there is already a common denominator(please read my post) because my plot is valued at about 1.5mil to 1.8mil kenya shillings
if your car is valued between that range, and you wish to acquire a commercial plot in kitengela.
you dont have to sell your car ,let me first view it then we are in business.
mpobiz
#7 Posted : Thursday, December 16, 2010 10:22:56 PM
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where are the plots in kitengela?
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MaichBlack
#8 Posted : Saturday, December 18, 2010 2:29:08 PM
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apogeus wrote:
alikujia wrote:
I think you need a common denominator of exchange to be fair to both sides i.e. money. otherwise one seems immovable while the other is very moving. just a thought.


there is already a common denominator(please read my post) because my plot is valued at about 1.5mil to 1.8mil kenya shillings
if your car is valued between that range, and you wish to acquire a commercial plot in kitengela.
you dont have to sell your car ,let me first view it then we are in business.

Sounds very fishy!!! Seriously! Sell the plot and buy a car immediately. There are car bazaars all over Nairobi. You can even buy the car hours after selling the land. Ama you will get a project worth 1.8m out of nowhere just hours after selling the land?
Never count on making a good sale. Have the purchase price be so attractive that even a mediocre sale gives good returns.
Tommy
#9 Posted : Saturday, December 18, 2010 8:31:16 PM
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hehehe, are u saying that u r unable to manage ur finances mpaka old age barter trade is the only solution.
Don't wait for the Last Judgment. It happens every day. ~Albert Camus, The Fall, 1956
apogeus
#10 Posted : Saturday, December 18, 2010 9:29:16 PM
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MaichBlack wrote:

Sounds very fishy!!! Seriously! Sell the plot and buy a car immediately. There are car bazaars all over Nairobi. You can even buy the car hours after selling the land. Ama you will get a project worth 1.8m out of nowhere just hours after selling the land?


whats fishy about asking for a car? how is it different from asking for 1.8mil in cash?
this is a very transparent transaction because
1.unlike in a cash transaction if anything goes wrong its easy to recover your car.
2. nobody the buyer or the seller is under pressure to enter into agreement if conditions of the transaction don't favor them
3.barter trade is the oldest form of doing business in the world. i am not the first one to practice it. there are websites dedicated to barter trade in Europe and in USA where people barter more expensive cars or assets than what i am asking for(maybe the 1.8mil figure is a bit mind boggling for you) check on google

this is not an experiment i have bartered before for land/car and i acquired a 10acres piece of land.

" Ama you will get a project worth 1.8m out of nowhere just hours after selling the land":- this statement is unwarranted because you dont know me to establish what kind of business i do

i am not ruling out a cash transaction if any wazuan has 1.8 mil and wants a COMMERCIAL plot in kitengela TOWN contact me. I HAVE 3 PLOTS 1/8ACRE UP FOR SALE
apogeus
#11 Posted : Monday, December 20, 2010 11:27:16 PM
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mpobiz wrote:



where are the plots in kitengela?



i have provided my email address if you need more details
MaichBlack
#12 Posted : Tuesday, December 21, 2010 10:41:47 AM
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apogeus wrote:
mpobiz wrote:



where are the plots in kitengela?



i have provided my email address if you need more details

This fellow is barely a month old in Wazua, he is 'bartering' land for a car, will not give details of the land in an open forum - to avoid scrutiny I guess, apparently can't manage his finances etc. etc.

All I can say is, if it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, swims like a duck...
Never count on making a good sale. Have the purchase price be so attractive that even a mediocre sale gives good returns.
MaichBlack
#13 Posted : Tuesday, December 21, 2010 10:47:59 AM
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apogeus wrote:
maybe the 1.8mil figure is a bit mind boggling for you

1.8m is a huge amount to be conned by an oga wanna be! Heck, any amount is too much to be conned!
apogeus wrote:
"Ama you will get a project worth 1.8m out of nowhere just hours after selling the land":- this statement is unwarranted because you dont know me to establish what kind of business i do

Trust me, by now I have a very good idea what kind of 'business' you are into. Be warned though. The Wazua crowd is a tough one. Hapa huwesmek!!!
Never count on making a good sale. Have the purchase price be so attractive that even a mediocre sale gives good returns.
apogeus
#14 Posted : Tuesday, December 21, 2010 11:28:03 PM
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its good you have been here in wazua for some time. this is a business forum. the number one thing that such a forum should teach you, is you never argue with a client or a potential client.

instead of trying to counter your argument i am going to tell you a story.
i have written before that this is not an experiment, i have batered before but this is an experiment here in wazua.
i will go into the record books of wazua, as a wazuan who posted the first real request for a barter trade in the wazua market.
it has been a exiting experience. my first contact was someone who had a rav4 that prompted me to post that i dint wish for a rav4 or xtrail
i had to be a bit specific.
so far i have received 5 offers 3 toyotas and 1 pajero. i have viewed all offers exept the rav 4. i turned down one toyota and the pajero for being a bit old than what i was looking for(over valued vehicles).the owner of the third toyota changed his mind because he decided to buy a plot in cash at a different location that suited him.
the 5th offer is a love offer from a wazuan lady calling herself mirian, she has promised to mail me her photos if i reply through her email (i wonder why she dint send them in the first place)

any business is a risky business. thats why you should approach any business with caution.
i might be a con artist. but what if i am not, but i get an offer from one? i have seen a friend who bought a car only to realize that the car was hired for two weeks the papers were manufactured in river road . after the two weeks the owners tracked the car(trak it) and collected it.unfortunately he lost about 700k in the deal.

my offer is still on until 15th jan 2011 from then on i will walk into this century and ask for cash for the plots.
apogeus
#15 Posted : Thursday, December 23, 2010 11:45:23 PM
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for BARTER TRADE listings in USA, Europe, and other countries check out this link

http://www.u-exchange.com/barter-system
sparkly
#16 Posted : Friday, December 24, 2010 8:02:02 AM
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apogeus wrote:

my offer is still on until 15th jan 2011 from then on i will walk into this century and ask for cash for the plots.

@apog i put my faith in cash. This is not like bartering 10 chickens for a goat.
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hawkeye
#17 Posted : Tuesday, December 28, 2010 9:30:04 AM
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@ apogeus, i stand to be corrected , land transaction in this country do not take the form of barter trade ama how will you effect transfer of the land to the potential barter/ car owner, this really smells like a con , and wazuans u had better be ware.
apogeus
#18 Posted : Tuesday, December 28, 2010 1:32:00 PM
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hawkeye wrote:
@ apogeus, i stand to be corrected , land transaction in this country do not take the form of barter trade ama how will you effect transfer of the land to the potential barter/ car owner, this really smells like a con , and wazuans u had better be ware.




allow me to correct you:-
in kenya the documents that show you legally own a piece of land are a title deed or certificate of lease etc
the documents that show you legally own a car is just a vehicle logbook under your name
to confirm the the entries in the documents you either conduct a search in the Ministry of lands offices ,and in the case of the car at the KRA

to transfer a title deed or a logbook to another party, its a legal process that involves documents like transfer-forms copies of ID and agreements witnessed by lawyers etc


in this case
one car valued 1.8mil = one 1/8acre plot

the only thing that will exchange hands are the necessary legal documents to effect a transfer

if i have left out any detail or you still have a question on this post. i will be glad to explain in the best way i can.



gesowan
#19 Posted : Thursday, December 30, 2010 4:30:56 AM
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if genuine one can make some money,check out the land value it,get a buyer,go to a car bazaar get a car give this guy,and you make your money
by getting the deference
Impunity
#20 Posted : Thursday, December 30, 2010 12:37:50 PM
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MaichBlack wrote:
apogeus wrote:
mpobiz wrote:



where are the plots in kitengela?



i have provided my email address if you need more details

This fellow is barely a month old in Wazua, he is 'bartering' land for a car, will not give details of the land in an open forum - to avoid scrutiny I guess, apparently can't manage his finances etc. etc.

All I can say is, if it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, swims like a duck...


....then its probably an OWL.

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