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Mtu Biz
#1 Posted : Wednesday, December 01, 2010 4:32:12 PM
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Last time i checked, human mortality is still steady at 100%.

That being the case, what do YOU think or suppose happens after we die?

What informs your view above?

Short answers please. Asanta.






Sola Scriptura


newfarer
#2 Posted : Wednesday, December 01, 2010 4:37:13 PM
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And I add , if we shall all die, why do people rob their country the way we see in this country?
why steal all the billions yet you will die 100%

Back to your question.

If you die and you were good , your spirit goes to rejoice with the angels

If you were bad your spirit goes to a waiting room with windows facing the HOT hell as you wait for judgement day,spirit shaking and gnashing teeth.
punda amecheka
Mtu Biz
#3 Posted : Wednesday, December 01, 2010 4:47:41 PM
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@newfarer

Thank you.

What informs this view ?
Sola Scriptura


newfarer
#4 Posted : Wednesday, December 01, 2010 5:00:02 PM
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The bible -John 5:28-29


28 “Do not be amazed at this, for a time is coming when all who are in their graves will hear his voice 29 and come out—those who have done what is good will rise to live, and those who have done what is evil will rise to be condemned.
punda amecheka
Tebes
#5 Posted : Wednesday, December 01, 2010 5:05:42 PM
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Depends on whether you are a Muslim, Christian, Hindu, Buddhist,Atheist, etc, etc
"Never regret, if its good, its wonderful. If its bad, its experience."
newfarer
#6 Posted : Wednesday, December 01, 2010 5:09:42 PM
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Also read the story of Lazarus and Rich man.Luke 16


"Bosom of Abraham" refers to the place of comfort in sheol

where the Jews said the righteous dead awaited Judgment Day.


The Rich man was burning and thirsty.Lazarus was enjoying in the bossom of abraham
punda amecheka
Mtu Biz
#7 Posted : Wednesday, December 01, 2010 5:17:30 PM
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Tebes wrote:
Depends on whether you are a Muslim, Christian, Hindu, Buddhist,Atheist, etc, etc


@ Tebes

Do these groups go to their respective heavens, hells or nothingness es?

What informs your view ?


Sola Scriptura


kadonye
#8 Posted : Wednesday, December 01, 2010 5:28:34 PM
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The spirit leaves the body.I dont know what else happens but I know from the bible that judgment will happen
What a wicked man I am!The things I want to do,I don't do.The things I don't want to do I find myself doing
Fundaah
#9 Posted : Wednesday, December 01, 2010 5:28:39 PM
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newfarer wrote:
Also read the story of Lazarus and Rich man.Luke 16


"Bosom of Abraham" refers to the place of comfort in sheol

where the Jews said the righteous dead awaited Judgment Day.


The Rich man was burning and thirsty.Lazarus was enjoying in the bossom of abraham

Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause

This is good bible quote for the ultimate
Isaiah 65:17-Look! I am creating new heavens and a new earth, and no one will even think about the old ones anymore
Mtu Biz
#10 Posted : Wednesday, December 01, 2010 5:49:53 PM
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Is the biblical view the only perspective here?

Any others?
Sola Scriptura


brav
#11 Posted : Wednesday, December 01, 2010 6:42:22 PM
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I think the xstrians and muslims view are closely related as for atheist i got something that the beleive what happens after death is not important. life should be enjoyed in the “here and now.”
Butt (pun intended hehe) what if, like the teachings of traditional Christianity, they are wrong? What if God does exist and He offers an awesome future beyond the grave, not taught by the religions and philosophies of men????????????
So better stay prepared.

as for muindi's reincarnation dont wanna go there


http://kidshealth.org/ki...ng/emotion/somedie.html

kenmac
#12 Posted : Wednesday, December 01, 2010 6:58:01 PM
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>> change in matter....you become organic matter and and continue living as healthy grass, spinach and whatever else you become fertilizer to.
......Ecclesiastes
Mtu Biz
#13 Posted : Wednesday, December 01, 2010 7:43:18 PM
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@brav

.... And what is YOUR view ?
Sola Scriptura


Mtu Biz
#14 Posted : Wednesday, December 01, 2010 7:46:41 PM
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kenmac wrote:
>> change in matter....you become organic matter and and continue living as healthy grass, spinach and whatever else you become fertilizer to.


Lol .... Healthy spinach. Interesting.
What informs your view kenmac?
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sheep
#15 Posted : Wednesday, December 01, 2010 9:54:22 PM
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haiya! Kuna people who believe we came from the primodial soup!!! The very fact im alive proves there is a supreme intelligence and evil proves there is an antagonist...whichever way we are pulled,we become like...I believe in God...honestly if you dont it means you declare all history as false...then we can say ther were no such men as alexander the great,julius ceasre,plato,isaac newton(all his discoveries of the law of gravity,motion were all fabrications)etc...that everything that we havent witnessed in our lifetimes cant be truth....oh if i could only prove i actually dont exist!
The utimate goal of investing is to buy low sell high;if we re-write this core equation in psychology terms it becomes buy fear sell greed.
ProverB
#16 Posted : Thursday, December 02, 2010 8:31:43 AM
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hi..
unfortunately for you..all my references are based on the Bible..so if it is a problem..u might as well ignore this post
please note also..the interpretation is mine and mine alone..as I believe God to lead me.

Ok..

It is appointed for man to die once..and after that judgment.. Hebrews 9:27

so..statistics proven, one out of every one human dies.. it follows u will never leave this life alive. smile smile ..but that is one part..physical death..where body separates with spirit..

.. body goes back to earth where it came from..and spirit goes back to whoever gave it.. GOD..Ecclesiastes 12:7 ..plus confession ya Christ..Luke 23:46

then there is the second death..Call it Kifo Reloaded..spiritual death..Only four times in the Bible is the term "Second Death" mentioned: Rev 2:11, Rev 20:6 & 14, and Rev. 21:8. We have been taught that this "Second Death" means permanent separation from God either by burning or some other form of annihilation, depending on your particular theology.


so..mtubiz..which death are you referring to? smile smile

on a side note..I do not know of other religions..i plead ignorance here on how you, or others seek to find your way to God..

but for me.. Christianity is the only "religion" in which instead of man seeking for God..God seeks out man..makes a way out for man..that it seems its only in Christianity that God wants more for you..and not more from you! but again..depends with what people are taught in there respective churches..doctrines..beliefs..religions etc.

..Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven...Matt5:16
- 1769 Oxford King James Bible 'Authorized Version
Much Know
#17 Posted : Thursday, December 02, 2010 9:17:29 AM
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Why do people skirt around this topic? Are the answers religion offers truly satisfactory or are they escapist just as people appear to avoid the questions here and take up the easiest route. To Quote Brav:
"What if God does exist and He offers an awesome future beyond the grave, not taught by the religions and philosophies of men????????????"
Can what if's form the basis of belief, i think so.
I do not practice any religion, but i do not condemn or chastise those that do. From what i can see, we have no concrete proof of anything, and one is left to judge and decide for themselves, and believe in what they are led to believe. I just don't believe in any religion and most of religions claims, it does not mean i don't believe in "something more" to our existence.
Meru Holiness
nostoppingthis
#18 Posted : Thursday, December 02, 2010 9:22:50 AM
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Can my catholic brothers/sisters explain purgatory?
YesuWangu
#19 Posted : Thursday, December 02, 2010 9:26:58 AM
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Like the Samaritan woman at the well, all I can say is 'When He comes, He will explain everything to me.'

ProverB
#20 Posted : Thursday, December 02, 2010 9:30:56 AM
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Much Know wrote:

I do not practice any religion, but i do not condemn or chastise those that do. From what i can see, we have no concrete proof of anything, and one is left to judge and decide for themselves, and believe in what they are led to believe. I just don't believe in any religion and most of religions claims, it does not mean i don't believe in "something more" to our existence.

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Good for you. Thou art a braver soul than i am..

my reasoning.. why do i choose to spend my life now doing my best to honor God, do good to others always..and be faithful with all that is entrusted to me? so that when i die..n.. I'd rather die a good man and find out there is no such thing as "GOD" than live the alternative and find that He DOES, actually, EXIST! smile
..Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven...Matt5:16
- 1769 Oxford King James Bible 'Authorized Version
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