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Property Bust in the Offing?
Injere
#1 Posted : Monday, November 29, 2010 6:19:32 AM
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Was speaking to a knowledgeable friend yesterday when this issue came up. According to him, the Kenyan property market is about to go south American Style. For him the hallmarks are evident - plenty of supply to go around, banks falling over each other to create mortgages, overpriced properties,e.t.c.

To some extent i'd agree, but it does appear that the growing middle class will need accomodation and in my view properties aimed at this segment may survive the meltdown.

What do you guys think?
quicksand
#2 Posted : Monday, November 29, 2010 7:35:00 AM
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This is Africa. Overpopulated, little space to expand to. There is no such thing as a property bust. The over-leveraging problem and imaginary 'funds'that caused the American crisis does not apply here.
sparkly
#3 Posted : Monday, November 29, 2010 8:45:03 AM
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@Injere IMO we still have a large deficit of housing. Imagine how many professionals are still living in extensions in buruburu, south B&C, Langata. Under other circumstances these are guys who would be eligible for mortgages if there were sufficient houses and mortgage rates were cheap.
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wangugi
#4 Posted : Monday, November 29, 2010 9:51:53 AM
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with akina centum,NSSF,Reneisance investing heavily in real estate and banks hawking morgages we'll definately have property bust in 3-4 years. This is already evident in the houses for letting
Injere
#5 Posted : Monday, November 29, 2010 9:52:57 AM
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I guess the trouble is that most developments now seem to be targeting the middle market and with every developer and govt institutions like NHIF & NSSF doing the same thing, are we headed for a bumpy ride? In fact, one could even ask: Is this middle market story overhyped? I havent seen any credible data to support it.

Could Kenya be another Ireland / Dubai in the making? Fast growing property sectors underpinned by weak fundamentals.
Chrenyan
#6 Posted : Monday, November 29, 2010 10:46:25 AM
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It has been my conviction for some time now that when moving into the property market one is going to have to be increasingly shrewd. I think the market at the very top of the pyramid (high-class homes) is moving towards saturation.

With regards to the middle market segment, Renaissance Capital, Centum, and Stanbic Investment Management Services moving into property, as you are pointing out, away from the more traditional investment areas like stocks and bonds. I cannot see these entities building low cost housing. I think they will invest in projects to house the upper middle/middle class. Hence that segment will move towards saturation as well.

Hence my view that if one is moving into property, low-cost housing is the way to go; demand is higher and will last longer at the lower end of the pyramid. These factors are particularly if one does not have the capital to develop property right now; and when one is ready to move into developing property, these factors will have had a longer time to affect the market.
propertyzote
#7 Posted : Monday, November 29, 2010 10:53:10 AM
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One huge problem is the lack of accurate and reliable data on price movements in the Property and Housing Sector.Its high time the government realize this kind of data is very important.The kind of data we get from Hass...atleast they try,but is biased and cannot be extensively reliable.
In my opinion the bubble may not burst at all as demand for property in Kenya will always surpass supply, at least in the foreseeable future but property prices may stagnate at some point. Good news though we at propertyzote are currently pushing the government to avail this data.

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#8 Posted : Monday, November 29, 2010 11:48:49 AM
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@Injere, funny i was thinking on the same. Questions to be answered by anyone. What supports the valuation of the property market in Kenya? Apart from the rights issue that was offered by KCB purposely for mortgage loans, which other financial institution is not leveraged? These bonds issued are secured by what? How many Kenyans earn over Kshs 120,000 to be able to afford the loans? Remember what the bond market has done to Ireland!
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