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TUPAC
#221 Posted : Tuesday, November 23, 2010 3:46:14 PM
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@guru do you think there will be need to apply for extra rights or just get them at the market @ a premium.
and now that the share is trading at around 30 bob at what premium will the rights be going for?
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guru267
#222 Posted : Tuesday, November 23, 2010 4:38:25 PM
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TUPAC wrote:
@guru do you think there will be need to apply for extra rights or just get them at the market @ a premium.
and now that the share is trading at around 30 bob at what premium will the rights be going for?


I am not applying for additional rights because that will probably be impossible to get.... There's a lot of big money waiting for these rights so I don't know how the thing will be under subscribed... but if it is, there already institutions waiting to pounce so how will you get in...

I'm planning to buy the rights off the market at a max 4 bob premium as @Ag pointed out which will bring my total average to about 17.5bob then wait for 2015 for the pot full of gold smile
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Wiztec
#223 Posted : Tuesday, November 23, 2010 4:59:07 PM
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@Guru sasa hiyo ni hesabu aina gani? if you buy the rights at a premius of 4bob add the rights value at 19.5 where do you get 17.5???
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guru267
#224 Posted : Tuesday, November 23, 2010 5:06:59 PM
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Wiztec wrote:
@Guru sasa hiyo ni hesabu aina gani? if you buy the rights at a premius of 4bob add the rights value at 19.5 where do you get 17.5???


@wiztec you are forgetting to add my huge holdings that I am using to get the rights which I got at 14-15 that's what brings my average down to 17.5
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PKoli
#225 Posted : Tuesday, November 23, 2010 11:25:49 PM
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guru267 wrote:
TUPAC wrote:
@guru do you think there will be need to apply for extra rights or just get them at the market @ a premium.
and now that the share is trading at around 30 bob at what premium will the rights be going for?


I am not applying for additional rights because that will probably be impossible to get.... There's a lot of big money waiting for these rights so I don't know how the thing will be under subscribed... but if it is, there already institutions waiting to pounce so how will you get in...

I'm planning to buy the rights off the market at a max 4 bob premium as @Ag pointed out which will bring my total average to about 17.5bob then wait for 2015 for the pot full of gold smile



I think you should go ahead and apply for additional rights. You may not get what you may apply for, but you will get some few extra. You never know institutional dont like tying their money, so they may not apply for as much as you may think
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guru267
#226 Posted : Wednesday, November 24, 2010 4:32:32 AM
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PKoli wrote:
You never know institutional dont like tying their money, so they may not apply for as much as you may think


@PKoli for a shareholder to get additional rights it means that another shareholder has chosen t take zero action on his/her rights...(Meaning she neither sells nor buys the rights)...

How many people do you know owning K.P.L.C would choose to take no action on their rights???
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Sober
#227 Posted : Wednesday, November 24, 2010 8:44:02 AM
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guru267 wrote:
PKoli wrote:
You never know institutional dont like tying their money, so they may not apply for as much as you may think


@PKoli for a shareholder to get additional rights it means that another shareholder has chosen t take zero action on his/her rights...(Meaning she neither sells nor buys the rights)...

How many people do you know owning K.P.L.C would choose to take no action on their rights???


those who have odd shares and hence are unable to sell. from the register there are many people with 47 or 99 shares pre split.
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ProverB
#228 Posted : Wednesday, November 24, 2010 10:05:51 AM
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..there is talk..please note..talk..innuendo..aspersions..unconfirmed rumours that
Jimna Mbaru(in private capacity), Kestrel, D&b, and JP Morgan are REALLY fronting KPLC to foreign investors??
lobby talk.
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Mpenzi
#229 Posted : Wednesday, November 24, 2010 10:15:15 AM
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ProverB wrote:
..there is talk..please note..talk..innuendo..aspersions..unconfirmed rumours that
Jimna Mbaru(in private capacity), Kestrel, D&b, and JP Morgan are REALLY fronting KPLC to foreign investors??
lobby talk.


I didnt know that foreign investors are "barred" from buying KPLC or are you only happy when foreigners create a demand thus pushing prices up?

And this is a rights issue for crying out loud, not a public offer!
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ProverB
#230 Posted : Wednesday, November 24, 2010 10:25:50 AM
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Mpenzi wrote:
ProverB wrote:
..there is talk..please note..talk..innuendo..aspersions..unconfirmed rumours that
Jimna Mbaru(in private capacity), Kestrel, D&b, and JP Morgan are REALLY fronting KPLC to foreign investors??
lobby talk.


I didnt know that foreign investors are "barred" from buying KPLC or are you only happy when foreigners create a demand thus pushing prices up?

And this is a rights issue for crying out loud, not a public offer!


please note..i'm talking about KPLC..not the rights please. and my point has nothing to do with foreigner capacity to buy or not to.
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