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the deal
#11 Posted : Monday, November 22, 2010 3:23:11 PM
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Well put/said @Stocksmaster...with you around we dont need the likes of Yasser to returns....LOL...
stocksmaster
#12 Posted : Monday, November 22, 2010 4:01:13 PM
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the deal wrote:
Well put/said @Stocksmaster...with you around we dont need the likes of Yasser to returns....LOL...


@ The Deal: Thanks.
As concerns YaserbigChair, you will be surprised by his depth of analysis and insight once he starts posting if he is as good as he was 2-3 years ago. I rarely give compliments but I can say he is Very Good with reliable info.

Happy hunting
x handle: @stocksmaster79
tony stark
#13 Posted : Monday, November 22, 2010 4:26:02 PM
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@ stocksmaster what plans does CFC have to turn the insurance into a profit making entity ... apart from selling it off??
Would you buy it at a P/E of 5??

Happy hunting!
Wiztec
#14 Posted : Monday, November 22, 2010 4:30:38 PM
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@mwanahisa, stockmaster, really nice to read these analysis, very informative...@all question, assume you have 800k to make investment decision on either kplc and/or stanbic bank at a period of 6 months. what would be your entry/investment strategy specifically on those two stocks. the objective is to maximise on your investment
Njung'e
#15 Posted : Monday, November 22, 2010 4:40:53 PM
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@Stockmaster,
the deal was not around then....and they say,he who does not go out often,is convinced that his mama is the best cook...lol
Nothing great was ever achieved without enthusiasm.
the deal
#16 Posted : Monday, November 22, 2010 4:57:38 PM
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Njung'e wrote:
@Stockmaster,
the deal was not around then....and they say,he who does not go out often,is convinced that his mama is the best cook...lol

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly well if Mzee Njung'e says you are good you must be really good anyway's Yasser the moment you drop your first post on your return to Wazua i will be off your back...LOL...
stocksmaster
#17 Posted : Monday, November 22, 2010 11:40:44 PM
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tony stark wrote:
@ stocksmaster what plans does CFC have to turn the insurance into a profit making entity ... apart from selling it off??
Would you buy it at a P/E of 5??

Happy hunting!

The listing reminds me of the Kenya Re IPO three and a quarter years ago. The listing was at a price of KSh 9.50. As at todays closing price, it has gained by only 20 per cent within that time.
Compairing Kenya RE with CFC insuarance:
Kenya RE:Trading at a P/e of 5 and a dividend yield of abt 2.3 per cent.EPS of 2.21
CFC Insuarance: Made a loss of Ksh 1.40 per share last year.Made some KSh 0.375 half yr this year. Last years loss means that the reserves need boosting hence dont expect any meaningful dividends this year.
If both traded at a P/E of 5, which would you buy (If at all you fancy insuarance stocks)?

Happy hunting.


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alikujia
#18 Posted : Tuesday, November 23, 2010 12:42:33 AM
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stocksmaster wrote:
tony stark wrote:
@ stocksmaster what plans does CFC have to turn the insurance into a profit making entity ... apart from selling it off??
Would you buy it at a P/E of 5??

Happy hunting!

The listing reminds me of the Kenya Re IPO three and a quarter years ago. The listing was at a price of KSh 9.50. As at todays closing price, it has gained by only 20 per cent within that time.
Compairing Kenya RE with CFC insuarance:
Kenya RE:Trading at a P/e of 5 and a dividend yield of abt 2.3 per cent.EPS of 2.21
CFC Insuarance: Made a loss of Ksh 1.40 per share last year.Made some KSh 0.375 half yr this year. Last years loss means that the reserves need boosting hence dont expect any meaningful dividends this year.
If both traded at a P/E of 5, which would you buy (If at all you fancy insuarance stocks)?

Happy hunting.


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Assuming one is on recovery path-cfc, while the other-Kre is on downward bec of structural issues, cfc can be a good play. But as youve said, it will be safer to see it come down fisrt before jumping in.

And this talk about getting the insurance free (which iam convinced is not the case) will be negative for the share price. But some may actually be ready to hold on to it because its "free".

By the way to those knowledgable in insurance accounts - the 23B assets is net?, or what?. and How would it compare with Kre against current price?
Aguytrying
#19 Posted : Tuesday, November 23, 2010 8:20:38 AM
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I was also not around during big-chair's hey days, but if he's anything like our stocksmaster, bring it on. (three and a quarter years.....wacha tu)
The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
trizher
#20 Posted : Tuesday, November 23, 2010 12:16:43 PM
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Naona kama ni kubaya pande hiyo ya CFC gotta bail out....bye CFC
...We do it for the $$$$!!
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