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Thika Road Expansion was a Mistake
McReggae
#101 Posted : Friday, October 15, 2010 11:39:46 AM
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9% use personal cars for transport at what percentage of the traffic????......almost 50% meaning that it if you deal with this lot then you are addressing a big chunk of the problem!!!!
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anasazi
#102 Posted : Thursday, November 18, 2010 11:05:37 AM
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Don't know if this has been mentioned before... Found an interesting site showing the progress on Thika Rd.. http://thikaroad.tk/
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Ndolotia
#103 Posted : Tuesday, November 23, 2010 11:11:23 AM
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Hi Wazuans.
Finally am a member. To celebrate, i would like to contribute to Mukiha's observation.
I do agree with you, but only 50%. Reason being,present day Outering Road is usually a nightmare,yet it was constructed as a bypass to ease traffic flow from the Airport across to the other side of Thika Road.I do not want to sound like a pessimist but these by passes were designed years ago. The time it has take to acquire funding from the kina world Bank etc has seen transport dynamics change drastically.So i believe more thought should have gone into the redesigning of the bypasses.

However with the Thika road expansion,i beg to differ with you.traffic flow in thika road will be greatly enhanced once the expansion is done. and while railway would help,it will take years to restructure.we do not expect thika road users to suffer all the while as we await for a railway.

look at it this way,when the government finally puts up an efficient railway system,we will have a choice between the road and the railway.then you will choose.it will be a win win for all of us. thought
myk
#104 Posted : Wednesday, December 01, 2010 4:57:42 PM
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yekeyeke wrote:
Wale hawataki thika road to be expanded can go jump. We dont want a railway. A metro maybe.

Mukiha and the others can go stay in london if they so want.




Sad dont be ignorant, thats your opinion, say i dnt want a railway; your rudeness potrays you as a not so learned fellow, dnt argue with emotions its not wise;
Wamutonyi
#105 Posted : Wednesday, December 01, 2010 5:42:00 PM
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I oppose the motion that says 'Thika Road Expansion was a mistake coz I believe experts planned for it with good reasons. Other busy roads also need expansion coz road transport is here to stay.

@yekeyeke
This is just a discussion and our views will not change the status quo. No one is stopping the Thika road project.

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FundamentAli
#106 Posted : Thursday, December 02, 2010 4:26:11 PM
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Upgrading the railway line might not be a solution. The Shs. 26B being spent on the road is a one off. Railway lines are expensive to build and maintain. The government gave RVR the concession because Kenya Railways was a heavy burden to it's budget. Britain privatised the railway lines in the late eighties only for the companies to hand back the rail as being uneconomical. Maintainance of the same was poor and this led to several accidents leading to a national outcry. Compartive costs between a road and a rail system are needed taking into account the cost in use.
'user'
#107 Posted : Monday, November 28, 2011 12:12:33 PM
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[quote=mukiha]If they had asked me, I'd have suggested that we spend all that money in improving the railway link between Thika and Nairobi.

The problem is not the size of the road; it is the number of cars using it. The way to reduce this number is to provide an good alternative to road transportation.

Watch this space: as soon as the expanded highway is opened, the traffic jams will return. Simple reason being that people will have moved from Nairobi to Thika enmase

Have you seen the developments going on along this highway...all waiting for it to open?[/uquote]
mukiha may be right on this.thika road and nairobi still remains a parking lot on weekdays.as long as we have nyayo uhuru university r/abouts jams will go nowhere.
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Marty
#108 Posted : Tuesday, November 29, 2011 8:07:23 AM
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'user' wrote:
[quote=mukiha]If they had asked me, I'd have suggested that we spend all that money in improving the railway link between Thika and Nairobi.

The problem is not the size of the road; it is the number of cars using it. The way to reduce this number is to provide an good alternative to road transportation.

Watch this space: as soon as the expanded highway is opened, the traffic jams will return. Simple reason being that people will have moved from Nairobi to Thika enmase

Have you seen the developments going on along this highway...all waiting for it to open?[/uquote]
mukiha may be right on this.thika road and nairobi still remains a parking lot on weekdays.as long as we have nyayo uhuru university r/abouts jams will go nowhere.



Am thinking the road will assist in a big way esp due to the many outlets for traffic en route to CBD. Some traffic will leave the highway via muthaiga, others via forest road, park road, ngara etc meaning the so many vehicles will get distributed towards CBD. Notice also the Chiromo roundabout is no more so vehicles heading to Westie and beyond via waiyaki way will just use forest road and drop at waiyaki way.

I also think we need to eliminate the other major round abouts (read GPO, Haile Sellasie, Nyayo, City Stadium etc
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mukiha
#109 Posted : Tuesday, November 29, 2011 8:10:49 AM
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@Marty & @User:

Regarding those roundabouts; what would you replace them with? Flyovers? We must be careful not to respond to a mosquito bite with a hammer!
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tom_boy
#110 Posted : Tuesday, November 29, 2011 11:46:44 AM
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@Mukiha, kudos for thinking outside the box. I agree with you 100%. This country needs strategies that will reduce number of cars on the roads without affecting efficiency. Thika road and all these by passes will do the exact opposite on both counts.
Another big govt blunder is allowing mitumba cars. This only helps japs get rid of their waste cars and drains our forex through fuel, spares , direct purchase etc. A greater evil is that Kenyan infrastructure dev. has been the opportunity cost of mitumba cars.
Our gava is greedy and shortsighted. Qsn - which individuals stand to benefit the most from thika rd project? Whose land or lands have literally been opened up by thika rd project and by passes? (and I don t mean the 'wanjikus' along thika rd).
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