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VALUE NSE STOCKS 2000 - 2009 (BANKING / INDUSTRIALS)
young
#1 Posted : Wednesday, October 28, 2009 8:31:00 AM
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A pip into historicals showed that the following counter returned above 1000 percent ie at least ten times their value

Banking:- KCB,Barclays,National Bank

Industrials:- ARM,EABL,KPLC,KQ

Looking forward,I believe for the period 2010 - 2019,the following counters will do same



Banking:- KCB,Barclays

Industrials:- EABL,ARM



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mtaalam
#2 Posted : Wednesday, October 28, 2009 9:49:00 AM
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...and you posted this thread three times because?
History doesn't always repeat itself.

Bright and interesting people talk about ideas. Those of average intelligence talk about things. Stupid people talk about other people.
young
#3 Posted : Wednesday, October 28, 2009 10:14:00 AM
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Posting this thread 3 times is not deliberate.

Its due to problem with my browser,and there is no option in SK to delete original post,you can only edit.

It is only possible to delete a contribution to a thread.

Apologies to all


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PKoli
#4 Posted : Wednesday, October 28, 2009 4:17:00 PM
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@Young - I got the info below from 'Mootley Fool Stock Advisor'
'Reagan's first term saw the creation of such future
giants as Sun Microsystems,Dell Computers,and Cisco
the greatest entrepreneurial burst of new
companies since the early 20th century.'
BusinessWeek
If you had put just $1,000 in each of these companies after they went public... by 1993,you would already have amassed over $40,000! And remember,that's before the big dot-com run-up...
If you still owned Sun Microsystems,Dell,and Cisco today... you would have amassed $783,930! All from just a $3,000 investment. Not bad...
Those forward-looking investors who saw the potential of the Internet and the microprocessor (Both inventions that were developed with government money) early on made a bundle!
I know the super days might be easy to come by,just curious to know in what virgin field will EABL invest in to give nearly 1000% profits? ARM,I might not doubt so much. KCB,I would rather Equity. KPLC,just like ARM,there is market for growth. Any other surprises?



PKoli
Hedges
#5 Posted : Wednesday, October 28, 2009 11:05:00 PM
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1. Banking - I think KCB will be a winner. They are tapping into other markets regionally,
upgrading their IT infrastructure ( though the teething problems for the core banking
was a disaster) and looking for big ticket project like the Sudan deal to construct
houses for civil servants.

Barclays was well ahead of the pack till it started hawking loans and credit
cards.Now they are focused on recovery rather than growth.I haven't heard any fresh
idea from Adan apart from cost cutting and reduced lending to the middle income
households.

National Bank - it doesnt have anything new to offer at the moment.Its a good
candidate for a merger or being bought out. I give it two years..maybe a nigerian
entity could snap it up.

2. EABL - kenyan market is saturated. only way out is to tap ethiopia,sudan,drc etc.but pkoli,i believe over time it may ALMOST hit the 1,000% profit...but in like 10 - 15 years ...

Happy investing !
young
#6 Posted : Thursday, October 29, 2009 9:21:00 AM
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@mzee Pkoli & Others

It seems you could not imagin that in particular EABL returns ten times its value Please see below.

(i) In 2000,the average price of EABL was 85 bob. This info can be obtained from NSE itself. Up to 2005 historical prices were hosted on their website so I have the hard copy.Lets assume I bought 1000 units of EABL t in year 2000. This means I have invested 85,000 bob in yeear 2000.



(ii) EABL has taken four corporate actions namely

(a)In 2001 a bonus 1 for 5 so my units become 1,250 units

(b) In 2004 a bonus of 1 for 5 and a split of 5 for 1. Be aware EABL was as high as 500 bob per share hence the split.

1 for 5 bonus gives me 1,500 units

5 for 1 split gives me 7,500 Units

(iii) In 2007 a bonus of 1 for 5.

This gives me 9000 units



(iv) In 2009 at the average price of 140 bob

The value of my shares now is 9000 * 140 = 1,260,000

That means 85,000 bob investment (excluding dividends) in 2000 is now worth 1,260,000 bob











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mukiha
#7 Posted : Thursday, October 29, 2009 1:50:00 PM
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In industrials,I would add the KenGen KPLC pair.

Elect demand outstrips supply by 5% currently. Supply is being beefed up and demand is still surging......

Tuonane 2019,God willing

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PKoli
#8 Posted : Thursday, October 29, 2009 2:00:00 PM
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@Young

Many thanks for your analysis of Breweries. I will soon be a convertee. Just a few thoughts though:

1. Possibility of near market saturation in the region,unless they venture into Ethiopia. My worry about Ethiopia difficulties in acquiring necessary operating license. I believe growth in Kenya will be determined largely by GDP growth.

2. ARM - I have no doubt,it will achieve if the Management remain focussed on their current strategy.

3. KCB - I need to be convinced.

4. KPLC - Demand in electricity and current government initiatives targetting Electricity Gen and Supply as major pillars for growth/V2030.

5. KenGen (see my comments above). Strong strategic thinking in new growth with strong emphasis on geothermal. Demand for products is huge.

6. Equity - I would like you to re-look at your KCB growth. I will take a tour of Uganda and Rwanda in Dec just to have a feel of the KCB and Equity Branch networks. Me thinks,Equity will lead the way.

My 2 cents. Happy investing and remain focussed!


PKoli
gabrini
#9 Posted : Monday, November 02, 2009 6:47:00 AM
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been following this thread and im wondering whether there aint anything gud to talk about co-op bank or has it been forgotten.Anyone with some news about this wakulima bank.
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