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Kitengela the "Tatu City" for the middle class
mpobiz
#1 Posted : Friday, November 05, 2010 1:40:01 AM
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i have been watching this forums and i was surpriced by people complaining about how tatu city is for the mega rich . don't despair you kenyan middle class society ,you have your own city.... don't let the rich dictate or set your standards.this town has also tried to set standards where controlled development areas have been introduced. for a new comer the foundation has already been set by us who decided to venture into the new world
my dear middle class folks lets all move to this town and its environs namely ATHI RIVER & MLOLONGO and together we can create a model city.

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Simpson
#2 Posted : Friday, November 05, 2010 11:16:39 AM
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I beg to disagree.
Kitengela demonstrates what happens when proper planning and regulation is totally lacking. No roads, no sewer line, no decent schools or hospitals - at least the last time I was there. One neighbour operates a posho mill, the other rears pigs next to your fence!
The middle class do not deserve that. Visit Nyayo Estate Enbakasi and try to visualise what the planners had in mind. Duplicate that vision 100 times in different sites around the country and you have respectable middle class housing.
For such developments, the cost of providing amenities and security is relatively low. When you have to be out of town, you do not have to worry about your young family or even leaving your house unoccupied for weeks. If you must have a garden, think leafy suburbs not Kitengela.
My 2 cents.
simonkabz
#3 Posted : Friday, November 05, 2010 11:40:04 AM
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@simpson, ati middle class dnt DESERVE what? Its the poor who do rait?
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Wendz
#4 Posted : Friday, November 05, 2010 2:07:38 PM
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Simpson wrote:
I beg to disagree.
Kitengela demonstrates what happens when proper planning and regulation is totally lacking. No roads, no sewer line, no decent schools or hospitals - at least the last time I was there. One neighbour operates a posho mill, the other rears pigs next to your fence!
The middle class do not deserve that. Visit Nyayo Estate Enbakasi and try to visualise what the planners had in mind. Duplicate that vision 100 times in different sites around the country and you have respectable middle class housing.
For such developments, the cost of providing amenities and security is relatively low. When you have to be out of town, you do not have to worry about your young family or even leaving your house unoccupied for weeks. If you must have a garden, think leafy suburbs not Kitengela.
My 2 cents.


@simpson

Depends on where you visited. In every town, you will find different people leaving in different areas. if you visited the areas of milimani, kyuna and I think its called muigai, then you will realise that these areas have controlled development.... In milimani area, they have an association that wont allow anyone to keep any sort of animals and the pieces of land available are limited. You cant also put up a flat or apartment and the like... and i think even kyuna too. In these areas, they have police posts around so i think that helps (not sure if they are very effective but they are there anyway).

I am not sure what you meant by decent hospitals but if you have been there lately, you may have realised that Aga Khan has open a branch there (you can google to confirm) and Getrude's Hospital is opening a branch there before end of the year.

There is also a school called Acacia Crest Academy which produced 3 top 100 students in Kenya last year. Their first lot had one candidate sitting for her KCSE at alliance girls... if that does not constitute decent education, i then may have been lost in translation. Within the area, there are children who school in riara, mombasa road, lukenya and another one called Kitengela international.....

There are also developments where they are coming up with several gated communities and these are mostly bungalows. I think that is not very unsafe but i would have reservations building on my own if there are no neighbours around.... but there are many people who have done the that especially in the controlled areas..

And simpson... by the time we are thinking "leafy surbarbs" havent we already crossed the "middle class" line to the top?

Personally i have done a study of the area and i know for a fact what i have said here is facts..... not hearsays but all the same, you dont have to stay where you dont want to.
Silk
#5 Posted : Friday, November 05, 2010 2:40:30 PM
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Wendz, you are very right. It' one of the fastest growing towns in the country. It has provided some of us with employment ,homes and investment opportunities.

Scubidu
#6 Posted : Tuesday, November 16, 2010 1:56:41 PM
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@mpobiz. Although the project is dead for now I was wondering about Tatu's proximity to a slum or poor areas. Where would they get the labour to do the odd jobs and what kind of services would the city offer ... isn't that where the South African model city (for dem white elite folk) is also breaking down. The poor people may not be eager to relocate to central kenya. What you think?
“We are the middle children of history man, no purpose or place. We have no great war, no great depression. Our great war is a spiritual war, our great depression is our lives!" – Tyler Durden
Wendz
#7 Posted : Tuesday, November 16, 2010 2:30:19 PM
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Scubidu wrote:
@mpobiz. Although the project is dead for now I was wondering about Tatu's proximity to a slum or poor areas. Where would they get the labour to do the odd jobs and what kind of services would the city offer ... isn't that where the South African model city (for dem white elite folk) is also breaking down. The poor people may not be eager to relocate to central kenya. What you think?


I would think there are enough POOR people in central kenya already.... ama where are these poor people relocating from?

But well, such investments will definitely attract low rent housing.. someone will find an opportunity in this not so far from the 'city' and soon, a kayole will sprout.... I am actually wondering which part this would be because i wouldnt mind having one but problem would be mungiki collecting your rent on your behalf.....

@silk... I actually noted that Gertrude's is already in operation! Impressive!
Scubidu
#8 Posted : Tuesday, November 16, 2010 3:36:01 PM
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@wendz. Whoops, polee if I was offensive; it didn't mean to come out that way ... I just figured the model for the city was like those of SA where Tatu was meant for Kenyan HNWs. I heard that the 'tatu' like cities in SA are no longer attractive to SA labours because security was beefed up in Jo'burg; they don't need to move for the work; the odd jobs that rich folk don't do ... not sure whether this is accurate ...

So at least we'd have to acknowledge that Tatu would need proximity to some sort of informal dwelling ... or will create one to service the city. I suppose Tatu will provide it's own security against Mungiki. Nairobi is more mixed in population wrt to populous in slums that service our richer urban folk, so are you implying that Tatu wlll serviced largely by labours who belong to the community in Central Province? or will all kinds of folk move from informal settlement in Nairobi to the new ones that will exist?

So you believe the service offered by the city will be low cost housing? And that will sustain the Tatu city years into the future? The city isn't on the tourist circuit and not in close proximity to any key raw materials. I personally thought Tatu City could offer entertainment services, perhaps casinos or other leisure services in order to sustain itself.
“We are the middle children of history man, no purpose or place. We have no great war, no great depression. Our great war is a spiritual war, our great depression is our lives!" – Tyler Durden
mpobiz
#9 Posted : Tuesday, November 16, 2010 4:16:01 PM
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Scubidu wrote:
@wendz. Whoops, polee if I was offensive; it didn't mean to come out that way ... I just figured the model for the city was like those of SA where Tatu was meant for Kenyan HNWs. I heard that the 'tatu' like cities in SA are no longer attractive to SA labours because security was beefed up in Jo'burg; they don't need to move for the work; the odd jobs that rich folk don't do ... not sure whether this is accurate ...

So at least we'd have to acknowledge that Tatu would need proximity to some sort of informal dwelling ... or will create one to service the city. I suppose Tatu will provide it's own security against Mungiki. Nairobi is more mixed in population wrt to populous in slums that service our richer urban folk, so are you implying that Tatu wlll serviced largely by labours who belong to the community in Central Province? or will all kinds of folk move from informal settlement in Nairobi to the new ones that will exist?

So you believe the service offered by the city will be low cost housing? And that will sustain the Tatu city years into the future? The city isn't on the tourist circuit and not in close proximity to any key raw materials. I personally thought Tatu City could offer entertainment services, perhaps casinos or other leisure services in order to sustain itself.




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Politics is just things to keep the people divided and foolish and put your trust in men and none of them can do nothing for you...
josimar
#10 Posted : Tuesday, November 16, 2010 4:30:03 PM
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Kitengela is promising and the town is growing rapidly.However
water is a big problem . I have noted that some real estate companies/ plot sellers are now selling off property in the area under the estate gated community concept and even promising prospective buyers that they will build swimming pools , dig boreholes etc . Anyway the area near East Africa University/Kamapala
University is an area to watch .
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