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disaster for Eaagads share price
sparkly
#91 Posted : Monday, November 08, 2010 8:35:04 PM
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My 2 cents wrote:
[quote=sparkly
Didn't Waguthu buy land from Eaagards? that was my assumption coz buying shares should not entitle you to assets of the company?



@ Sparkly, did you just write this? that shareholders do not own the assets of a company?

Wazua I think there should be a forum called Investing 101.

Sparkly as a shareholder you are PART OWNER of the company together with all the other shareholders. Why in the world would you think that shareholders are not entitled to the assets of a company????????????????
Sorry to say that this is the daftest statement I have read today.[/quote]
yeah right and since you are a shareholder of EABL and Unga you can be popping in every week for your weekly swallow and jogoo for your kids... Did you read your two cents before clicking 'post'?
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hisah
#92 Posted : Monday, November 08, 2010 10:02:44 PM
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Investors need to do their due diligence. The media is not paid to be a financial advisor. You can't even sue them for such misinfo. Funny how the broker world also works like the media even though they're paid to give proper advice! Some broker samples for the year so far: -

1. Broker X says KCB is a sell due to right issue dilution. A few months later KCB is up.
2. Broker X upgrades MSC to a buy due to power co-generation and sugar rally. A few months later it's on a slide.
3. Broker X upgrades SCOM to a buy since it has withstood the competition. A few months later...
4. Broker X upgrades Equity to a buy on stellar growth. The price has since reached a glass ceiling...
5. But the best one was the referendum positive review. Just to be fair to the media and brokers/financial advisors, I too got this one wrong. I should have stuck with the volume indicator (diminishing) which called for a pause or correction and NSE has struggled to break 4700 for 3 months running.

In short, Mr. Market doesn't like crowded roads or the public domain since this makes it difficult for the bus to go uphill. I hope the lessons have been learned.
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simonkabz
#93 Posted : Monday, November 08, 2010 10:10:52 PM
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No no no....my measly knowledge tells me that assets of the company strictly belong to the company, not the shareholders. Rem even during liquidation, they r the last 2b considered after all creditors n other capital sources. However, the shareholders have the final word on handling of the company property.
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guru267
#94 Posted : Tuesday, November 09, 2010 4:12:16 AM
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hisah wrote:
1. Broker X says KCB is a sell due to right issue dilution. A few months later KCB is up.
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@hisah When KCB went ex rights it was trading at 22 and when it was cum rights and before that it was trading at close to 24 and this is also the period when the brokers issued the sell recommendation....

During the rights issue the share fell to 17.65 and has since risen to 22-23 level meaning if you bought KCB at the time of the SELL recommendation you are still probably at a loss or breaking even...

And if you checked closely enough you would have noticed KCB was upgraded to a buy (by the same brokers) when it was trading at 18-19 after the results of the rights issue


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youcan'tstopusnow
#95 Posted : Tuesday, November 09, 2010 6:19:49 AM
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guru, I agree with hisah. Brokers urged investors to shun The Lion when it was at 18. They said there will be a huge dilution by the rights issue. But different brokers give different reccomendations. So you could as well be right
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Aguytrying
#96 Posted : Tuesday, November 09, 2010 7:32:26 AM
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The market watch guy on nation on thursday has been putting mumias in his basket ever since the fy results.... They can predict based on the core principles and behaviour of stocks. But no one can always predict what will really happen and more importantly when it'll happen.
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ProverB
#97 Posted : Tuesday, November 09, 2010 7:56:22 AM
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mhmmm Sad Sad

at some point discussion moved from Eaagards..to CMA/NSE..to brokers...now to KCB..and some kiasi mumias..and finally business reporters..
seems eaagards analysis has been exhausted.
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My 2 cents
#98 Posted : Tuesday, November 09, 2010 9:09:46 AM
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@Sparkly, please differentiate between inventory and assets. If you, a shareholder, does not own the company's assets, pray tell, who owns them? Answer this please. Who owns a company's assets?

And do not say, the company. Who owns the company? Why do you receive dividends?
simonkabz
#99 Posted : Tuesday, November 09, 2010 9:17:49 AM
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In the eyes of the law, a company is an independent artificial person. Thus, kamau, ojwang, equity bank, EABL, wanjiku etc are all persons, with certain rights eg property ownership. The company property therefore belongs to the company, period. No shareholder can lay claim unless the company ceases to exist. Neither can any of the shareholders use, sell or transfer the company property in individual capacity. I thnk the point here is DIRECT OWNERSHIP. With this in mind, could eegads have sold the core property without an AGM? Change core business without CMA n shareholders approval? Im in doubt. My few cents.
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ProverB
#100 Posted : Tuesday, November 09, 2010 9:58:22 AM
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Inakaa hakuna biashara leo? ama buyers have put a freeze on this one??
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