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Charity Ngilu
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#11 Posted : Sunday, October 31, 2010 4:34:12 PM
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Raila defends Ngilu over graft claims



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Sober
#12 Posted : Sunday, October 31, 2010 10:58:42 PM
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why should he defend her rather than let her face the same censure other 'corruption allegation' cases. why?
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Seeders
#13 Posted : Monday, November 01, 2010 10:08:16 AM
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because he is a 'progressive' leader. lol

Sober wrote:
why should he defend her rather than let her face the same censure other 'corruption allegation' cases. why?

nostoppingthis
#14 Posted : Monday, November 01, 2010 12:00:15 PM
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All the roads if not all to Central Kenya are well tarmacked hata ile by-pass ya kutoka JKIA is very smooth...Is it that most resources are being channeled to roads in this area? your take...
Dia
#15 Posted : Monday, November 01, 2010 1:51:04 PM
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Fundaah wrote:
I tend to think she has been peeping Wazua....
I have been always complaining that the major problem in Ukambani is water and visionless leadership.....

Now ,Ngilu has done a wonderful job in the expansive region....running from Voi to Garisa to nairobi to Tsavo east National( a large part of the 'inhabitable' kenyan land .....I think the committee grilling her on ground that she is favoring her region does not understand the graveness of the water problem in Ukambani
Fundaah wrote:
I tend to think she has been peeping Wazua....
I have been always complaining that the major problem in Ukambani is water and visionless leadership.....

Now ,Ngilu has done a wonderful job in the expansive region....running from Voi to Garisa to nairobi to Tsavo east National( a large part of the 'inhabitable' kenyan land .....I think the committee grilling her on ground that she is favoring her region does not understand the graveness of the water problem in Ukambani ......do they want the region to keep on burdening us with relief kenyans food forever?.....infact more should be done to the region including dams and WATERMELON FARMING as the region is hot and ideal for them....Ukambani can be the food basket for the country........

infact more should be done to the region including dams and WATERMELON FARMING as the region is hot and ideal for them....Ukambani can be the food basket for the country........


The issue is not the famine problem in Ukambani or whether she has done a good job of sinkiing boreholes. North Eastern also has an equally serious water problem. Why not sink as many boreholes there? Why the preference for Ukambani? That's the issue under discussion!

Fundaah wrote:
Ukambani can be the food basket for the country........


Why are you so focused on Ukambani? Think like a Kenyan first. This is the kind of thinking that divides a country! ABK! What about the rest of Kenya? Israel is a desert country and produces food for export. Whay can't the same be done for Turkana, Garissa and Kieni?

FundamentAli
#16 Posted : Monday, November 01, 2010 2:18:17 PM
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nostoppingthis wrote:
All the roads if not all to Central Kenya are well tarmacked hata ile by-pass ya kutoka JKIA is very smooth...Is it that most resources are being channeled to roads in this area? your take...


@nostoppingthis

Bypasses are to do with the city, not the neighbouring provinces. Avoiding Nairobi is the point here. It is unfortunate that the Southern bypass has not started due to world bank funding hitches despite it being on the cards for such along time. A schedule of allocation of Resources to various raoads is always published on the dailies once a year by the Road Board for scrutiny.

There is also the issue of Transafrican highways. One starts at Mombasa and crosses to Malaba. Othe one starts from Wundanyi through Nairobi and heads North to Isiolo to Wajir. Being centrally placed like central kenya or kenya as a contry is geographical advantage and not necessarily favouritism. International trunk roads passing through Nairobi are funded differently from local roads.

On water, previous water minister was also from Ukambani. Minister for semi-arid and arid is from North eastern. Agriculture minister is from Rift valley. Problem is, even Taita Taveta, upper eastern, Turkana, Baringo, West Pokot, North Eastern, Coast, Loitok tok, Magadi have water issues. Could be that she is allocating all resources to her region as a way of gaining Ukambani political supremacy at the expense of other regions?
nostoppingthis
#17 Posted : Monday, November 01, 2010 5:32:29 PM
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Fundaah
#18 Posted : Monday, November 01, 2010 9:16:33 PM
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Dia wrote:
Fundaah wrote:
I tend to think she has been peeping Wazua....
I have been always complaining that the major problem in Ukambani is water and visionless leadership.....

Now ,Ngilu has done a wonderful job in the expansive region....running from Voi to Garisa to nairobi to Tsavo east National( a large part of the 'inhabitable' kenyan land .....I think the committee grilling her on ground that she is favoring her region does not understand the graveness of the water problem in Ukambani
Fundaah wrote:
I tend to think she has been peeping Wazua....
I have been always complaining that the major problem in Ukambani is water and visionless leadership.....

Now ,Ngilu has done a wonderful job in the expansive region....running from Voi to Garisa to nairobi to Tsavo east National( a large part of the 'inhabitable' kenyan land .....I think the committee grilling her on ground that she is favoring her region does not understand the graveness of the water problem in Ukambani ......do they want the region to keep on burdening us with relief kenyans food forever?.....infact more should be done to the region including dams and WATERMELON FARMING as the region is hot and ideal for them....Ukambani can be the food basket for the country........

infact more should be done to the region including dams and WATERMELON FARMING as the region is hot and ideal for them....Ukambani can be the food basket for the country........


The issue is not the famine problem in Ukambani or whether she has done a good job of sinkiing boreholes. North Eastern also has an equally serious water problem. Why not sink as many boreholes there? Why the preference for Ukambani? That's the issue under discussion!

Fundaah wrote:
Ukambani can be the food basket for the country........


Why are you so focused on Ukambani? Think like a Kenyan first. This is the kind of thinking that divides a country! ABK! What about the rest of Kenya? Israel is a desert country and produces food for export. Whay can't the same be done for Turkana, Garissa and Kieni?





I have a great love for my country ...Mr/s Dia....That is why i am always anti-corruption and anti hate ..and anti tribalist.....if you are old enough in Wazua ...you should be aware of this ....

Let me try to explain why I am focused on Ukambani....which is part of Kenya...

When you hear of relief food ....what region do you think about?isnt it Ukambani?....

Do we have the budget to sink boreholes in all kenya...even in areas where rains are not are problem.....Kieni water/food problem is not perennial as Ukambani...how many times do you see Kieni in the news.....

Who said that no borehole was dug in Kieni... do we have any distribution which shows where the boreholes were dug other that heresay that 30% went to Ukambani.....?where were the 70 % others dug?Umejiuliza hizo maswali? are we sure that no borehole was dug in Garisa and Turkana?

You know why Ukambani is affected by water problems more,and therefore more deserving.. they practise crop farming.... unlike pastoralists you cannot move your crops to where there is rain...ie greener pastures....

Thats why i am so focused on ukambani.....

And by the way Ukambani covers the largest inhabited region in terms of land area than any other region in the country....take a map of kenya

Voi....Mlolongo.....Garissa


Let me reiteliate that I am not defending Ngilu if she misappriated any money..... Being a minister from Ukambani does not mean she cannot focus on problem areas in her ministry
Isaiah 65:17-Look! I am creating new heavens and a new earth, and no one will even think about the old ones anymore
Fundaah
#19 Posted : Monday, November 01, 2010 11:07:39 PM
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@Dia...By the way in the spirit of being kenyan first .... I support those wazuans who are taunting for a Kenyan President of Somali origin.....Abdulkadir Mohammed ...Please stand up......These guys have shown excellence in their leadership.... forget about Ngilus Railas , Uhurus, Rutos ,Kalonzos et al.
Isaiah 65:17-Look! I am creating new heavens and a new earth, and no one will even think about the old ones anymore
mpobiz
#20 Posted : Tuesday, November 02, 2010 1:53:48 AM
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Fundaah wrote:
@Dia...By the way in the spirit of being kenyan first .... I support those wazuans who are taunting for a Kenyan President of Somali origin.....Abdulkadir Mohammed ...Please stand up......These guys have shown excellence in their leadership.... forget about Ngilus Railas , Uhurus, Rutos ,Kalonzos et al.



... a friend of mine told me that somalis are the most brilliant people i this country.look at most of our leaders of somali origin when you disregard their accent they dont engage in cheap talk.per capita they dont fear to question authority especially in regards to their rights....but wait a minute... when too many brilliant minds come together and opinions clash we end up with war(somalia)...... he also said... its easier to stop war between fools than war between geniuses... fools fight for no apparent reason....but clever people will always have a good and reasonable cause for war
...think about it


abdulkadir.. you are doing a good job at least you are one of our brilliant mind amongst our many fools. i wouldn't mind you being my next PRESIDENT

here is the formular

foolish leader+foolish people= tribal clashes
foolish leader+clever people= economic plunder(mo 1)
clever leader +clever people= war(somalia)
clever leader+foolish people= prosperous kenya( what we have today)
Politics is just things to keep the people divided and foolish and put your trust in men and none of them can do nothing for you...
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