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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/6/2008 Posts: 3,548
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@kularaha, they are locked in no need to split hairs. Dustbin research plus congestion returning indicates things are bad for zain. Hope India continues giving inter market subsidies, maybe zain will go to 1bob.....permanently A New Kenya
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/17/2008 Posts: 23,365 Location: Nairobi
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KulaRaha, The fact is, zain are in deep shyt men, nothing working out for them, and this time they will report supernormal losses!!!! ..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/6/2008 Posts: 3,548
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Yeh, the losses will send shockwaves all the way to india, if last year was 7bill, am seeing kiddu 14bill this year, mind you most of it is debt(including a few bill to safcom) what next? A New Kenya
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/13/2009 Posts: 1,950 Location: in kenya
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What is more worrying is them aping orange and offering free calls all weekend if you top up with ksh.100(terms and conditions) from 9.00pm to 6.00am(more terms and conditions). '......to the acknowledgment of the mystery of God, and of the Father, and of Christ; 3 In whom are hid all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge.' Colossians 2:2-3
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 10/17/2008 Posts: 1,234
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@Much Know, McReggae, Selah, what is the basis is your assertions? figures not guesswork please.....
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/26/2007 Posts: 6,514
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Mpenzi wrote:@Much Know, McReggae, Selah, what is the basis is your assertions? figures not guesswork please..... Dont ask that...these guys have access to info even Bharti doesnt have! LOL  Business opportunities are like buses,there's always another one coming
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/17/2008 Posts: 23,365 Location: Nairobi
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KulaRaha wrote:Mpenzi wrote:@Much Know, McReggae, Selah, what is the basis is your assertions? figures not guesswork please..... Dont ask that...these guys have access to info even Bharti doesnt have! LOL Logic and info from inside,zain currently on panic mode broda!!!!! ..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
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Rank: Member Joined: 4/17/2009 Posts: 194
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KulaRaha wrote:mukiha wrote:KulaRaha wrote:McReggae wrote:gathinga wrote:Can somebody post the subsriber numbers as at end of Sept. we need to seperate 'ngano na thawati' I think status has remained almost the same, no big change in litmus paper!!! Really? Then why extend the 3 bob offer for another month, and start a new sms offer? ... to lock-in subscribers You lock in with limited time offers or permanent deals? Just get this. There's nothing permanent in this life. Remember 1.Zain's Vuka? 2.Orange 1/= Forever? They are all gone. If the company does not make money, you bet your a**, they will yank it from the market. Sue them if you can. I am sure the fine print protects them somewhere.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/6/2008 Posts: 3,548
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McReggae wrote:KulaRaha wrote:Mpenzi wrote:@Much Know, McReggae, Selah, what is the basis is your assertions? figures not guesswork please..... Dont ask that...these guys have access to info even Bharti doesnt have! LOL Logic and info from inside,zain currently on panic mode broda!!!!! LOGIC A New Kenya
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Rank: Hello Joined: 8/25/2010 Posts: 3 Location: Nbi
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Zain will probably be up for sale within a year ... Next customer ..MTN??? , The more things Change....The more they remain the same
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Rank: Elder Joined: 5/27/2008 Posts: 3,760
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MTN are already in town via UUNET. I guess with the unified license regime, they probably already have the mobile licenses and will just apply for prefixes. Given that they can piggyback on any other providers infrastructure, Bharti will be of no business value.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/11/2007 Posts: 1,680 Location: nairobi
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Quote:Yeh, the losses will send shockwaves all the way to india, if last year was 7bill, am seeing kiddu 14bill this year, mind you most of it is debt(including a few bill to safcom) what next? ...have read the fineprint..lets SUE this BHATISSSSSSSS
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/30/2006 Posts: 635
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McReggae wrote:gathinga wrote:Can somebody post the subsriber numbers as at end of Sept. we need to seperate 'ngano na thawati' I think status has remained almost the same, no big change in litmus paper!!! still no one to post real numbers??? am sure if Zain were doing good, their mandarins would be rushing to tout it here!!
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Rank: Hello Joined: 8/25/2010 Posts: 3 Location: Nbi
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No need for Numbers where the deafening silence from parkside towers would suffice wait for the Familiar song to start allover again- new CEO , new investor ,new name , new strategy
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/30/2006 Posts: 635
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mzeekobe wrote:No need for Numbers where the deafening silence from parkside towers would suffice wait for the Familiar song to start allover again- new CEO , new investor ,new name , new strategy the majority opinion is quite a climd down from the time when Zain fired the fist Salvo. wapi steadman?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/2/2009 Posts: 2,458 Location: Nairobi
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i have missed 8 pages of this discussion
now im back to say.. bado niko na SAFARICOM
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Rank: Member Joined: 3/10/2008 Posts: 68
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every time you send an sms on safcom, you lose kes 2.50 to 4.50 unless you are on the nonsense offers! zain is the way to go! (sold off safcom shares recently). now, whether zain are closing or selling shop is an entirely different matter. LOL
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Rank: New-farer Joined: 7/22/2010 Posts: 15 Location: Nairobi
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Question: Is the Zain 3-bob rate for pre-paid subscribers.... per minute or per second billing? Have they called you to move to pre-paid which apparently is per second billing? Do things simply;
Even better,
Do simple things
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Rank: Member Joined: 10/5/2006 Posts: 13
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I agree with @Kanda, let us enjoy the benefits of Bharti Airtel's global strategic coordination that's culminating in reduced communication costs for the Kenyan citizenry. Those with emotional attachment to Safaricom are either wishful shareholders or those addicted to Safaricom inflicted pain. If Bharti Airtel's Zain closes shop two years from now, at least we shall have tasted the sweetness of affordable communication. See also a related blog post here http://goo.gl/NqbJ
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/13/2008 Posts: 1,565
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Gordon Gekko wrote:MTN are already in town via UUNET. I guess with the unified license regime, they probably already have the mobile licenses and will just apply for prefixes. Given that they can piggyback on any other providers infrastructure, Bharti will be of no business value. Not sure if UUNet opted for a converged licence - very unlikely. What you allude to would be an MVNO (mobile virtual network operator) - Like Virgin Mobile in RSA. I am not sure we have such provisions in the market yet to allow this. Overall, whoever said Zain might double its losses from 7 mil to 14 mil, should also take into account the new (lower) interconnection rates - fine, more traffic went from Zain to SCOM - but with lower interconnection, it may not suffer such huge losses. While it might not be scientific - I know at least 10 people who have ceased to use their SCOM numbers - totally. Zain may be mum on its new numbers as part of its strategy. To shout it from the hill tops would be to cause some premature and unnecessary political and other interference. Lets wait and see. I suspect Zain now has over 5 million subscribers and growing. Whoever said they will be sold off - not likely. Bharti has abt 150 million subscribers in India - enough to subsidise its Africa operations that total abt 40 million subs (end of 2009). In some markets ARPU for them is still pretty high and in those markets they are the dominant operator. In Nigeria they have 15 million subscribers and the #2 operator there. Look globally and you can see why they can take the fight to Safaricom.
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