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mkagollah
#21 Posted : Wednesday, April 01, 2009 11:33:00 PM
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Take over?Oh really?What are they gonna take over anyway?The 30,000 inactive subscribers?'Real Business Sense indeed'!!

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eldersensei
#22 Posted : Thursday, July 15, 2010 6:40:01 PM
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Lets see whether they'll manage to do what Zain or Orange couldn't. Im an active Yu subscriber and I we all want to see our network grow...
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#23 Posted : Thursday, July 15, 2010 7:53:47 PM
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It will be a tall order for them considering the market penetration safcom has.I would expect some slight brand switching but that would be countered.Given that Safcom has already created switching costs thro' m-pesa and the likes it will be difficult.have you also realised the way they are slowly entering into data?its cuz mobile internet is the next big thing.i fear for the likes of access kenya.
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#24 Posted : Thursday, July 15, 2010 8:59:33 PM
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Well all i have to say is that they'll all try and they'll all fail.... SAFARICOM WILL ALWAYS REMAIN KING OF KENYA
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Kulchaz
#25 Posted : Thursday, July 15, 2010 9:20:53 PM
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For any SA firm, Kenya should be the last place they would want to come in bragging and especially when when they are going to be dealing with a heavy weight though locally like safaricom! They try it and they will run out of this country very fast with their tails on fire and minus a few billions of rands. MTN should first consult Castle Breweries, Lucky 7, Media 24 etc before they attempt this feat!
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#26 Posted : Thursday, July 15, 2010 9:32:12 PM
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>> the loyalty that safaricom enjoys makes it virtually impossible to dethrone it.



The key lies with the future and the other operators should focus on newbie phone users...that group around 16 & 17 years who are just entering the market. Give form four leavers some cheap network locked phones then sit back and grow with them.



safaricom loyalists acquired their lines long ago and wouldn't risk loosing their contacts. So let the other operators think of ten years from now, not some short sighted misplaced price strategies.
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the deal
#27 Posted : Thursday, July 15, 2010 9:40:59 PM
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Kulchaz wrote:
For any SA firm, Kenya should be the last place they would want to come in bragging and especially when when they are going to be dealing with a heavy weight though locally like safaricom! They try it and they will run out of this country very fast with their tails on fire and minus a few billions of rands. MTN should first consult Castle Breweries, Lucky 7, Media 24 etc before they attempt this feat!


and how many Kenyan businesses have succeded in SA? Dont tell me Olympia!!! Yet many SA firms have succeded here i.e DSTV...Mr Price...Steers...Old Mutual...Altech(KDN)...UUNET...Truworth...Stanbic...
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Kesh!
#28 Posted : Friday, July 16, 2010 4:28:09 AM
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....now bring in number portability and the prospect of all networks properly sharing the subscribers is a reality...although i heard them talk of an initial fee of ksh1000 which would slow down the process...
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youcan'tstopusnow
#29 Posted : Friday, July 16, 2010 6:18:54 AM
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Kesh!, that fee was reduced to only 200.
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#30 Posted : Friday, July 16, 2010 9:37:58 AM
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@the deal

Old Mutual is not the SA but UK 'branch' of OM in Kenya. OM of SA was not allowed to stay in Kenya pre-1990

Deacons (Kenyan firm) has franchises of Mr. Price, Wooloworths + others. Not owned by SA

Stanbic??? Puhleeze, even banks 1/2 the size (NIC, DTBK, I&M) make higher profits!
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mozenrat
#31 Posted : Friday, July 16, 2010 10:06:48 AM
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@eldersensei...

Why have you revived this thread nearly 1 year down the line? Has there been some news that we're unaware of?
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#32 Posted : Friday, July 16, 2010 3:40:07 PM
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mozenrat wrote:
@eldersensei...

Why have you revived this thread nearly 1 year down the line? Has there been some news that we're unaware of?


I was also wondering the same. I had not seen this discussion then suddenly its here with many responses. On checking closer its for '09.Whats new on the MTN attempted entry to the safaricom dominated market?
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mozenrat
#33 Posted : Friday, July 16, 2010 4:04:08 PM
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Or maybe the share price has become too expensive for him.. and he is trying to pull a "a nation on kenolkobil" on it.. Hope it works, I'm dying to dive in some more..
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Gordon Gekko
#34 Posted : Friday, July 16, 2010 4:10:58 PM
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Wouldn't a more likely route into voice for MTN be UUNET which they bought?
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Kesh!
#35 Posted : Saturday, July 17, 2010 12:12:31 PM
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youcan'tstopusnow wrote:
Kesh!, that fee was reduced to only 200.

i'm sayin that coz i heard both ksh200 and 1k. The 1k was by someone in the min of comm (the one for Bitange) or cck commissioner and was talking the same non-sense we've heard for fibre of recovering setup costs.
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selah
#36 Posted : Wednesday, October 27, 2010 10:11:07 AM
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Safaricom now has to watch out for this MTN Business thing .I think its a good threat and once it goes full throttle into the voice segment and then combine the competition from bharti airtel ,YU and Orange it will be a big challenge for BOB.I foresee mergers and acquisitions in the future for this sector.
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#37 Posted : Wednesday, October 27, 2010 10:18:28 AM
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Denting SCOM dominance is a tall order for any provider, dethroning them is next to impossible just ask Zain. The price wars have not dented SCOM dominance and Zain has hardly gained an inch.

BBI will solve it :)
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gathinga
#38 Posted : Wednesday, October 27, 2010 3:55:36 PM
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selah wrote:
Safaricom now has to watch out for this MTN Business thing .I think its a good threat and once it goes full throttle into the voice segment and then combine the competition from bharti airtel ,YU and Orange it will be a big challenge for BOB.I foresee mergers and acquisitions in the future for this sector.

Am not sure if MTN have a license for voice. May be they should consider an acquisition, Essar and Orange come to mind.
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kivairu
#39 Posted : Saturday, October 30, 2010 6:22:29 AM
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Initial talk was that MTN was buying out YU.When did things change and UUNET got into the picture?All said, by the sheer size of MTN, i see them taking the no.2 slot after safaricom..a few year down the road.

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#40 Posted : Saturday, October 30, 2010 11:58:32 AM
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@kaviaru; No 2 in which segment? Voice? They don;t have a license for that!
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