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wanjirus
#1 Posted : Monday, October 18, 2010 11:25:24 AM
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Hi good people of wazua, do you think it's wise to vaccinate ua kid against flu? ama hii ni joto ya first born, I should wait and become Akuku to decide?
nostoppingthis
#2 Posted : Monday, October 18, 2010 11:36:22 AM
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wanjirus wrote:
Hi good people of wazua, do you think it's wise to vaccinate ua kid against flu? ama hii ni joto ya first born, I should wait and become Akuku to decide?



I think it is important to vaccinate against influenza, but this is supposed to be done annually since influenza is very dynamic in it's inherent nature and their exists a difference in circulating strains annually between the Northern and Southern Hemisphere.

It is important to note, that colds are also caused by a variety of bacteria/viruses. The govt is still planning to introduce the pneumo vaccine (this also affects children very much)
Wendz
#3 Posted : Monday, October 18, 2010 12:36:33 PM
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wanjirus wrote:
Hi good people of wazua, do you think it's wise to vaccinate ua kid against flu? ama hii ni joto ya first born, I should wait and become Akuku to decide?


Spoke to a friend in the medical field and told me it doesnt make sense to vaccinate the kid against flu.... it is just another marketing gimmick by the phama-giants.

The argument was that flu is caused by 1000 different viruses and you can only immunize for one.... and if the other 999 (not exactly the figure) hits the air, the kid will still catch it irrespective of earlier immunization.

someone can explain to us further...
nostoppingthis
#4 Posted : Monday, October 18, 2010 1:13:02 PM
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Wendz wrote:
wanjirus wrote:


Spoke to a friend in the medical field and told me it doesnt make sense to vaccinate the kid against flu.... it is just another marketing gimmick by the phama-giants.

The argument was that flu is caused by 1000 different viruses and you can only immunize for one.... and if the other 999 (not exactly the figure) hits the air, the kid will still catch it irrespective of earlier immunization.

someone can explain to us further...


@ Wendz a.k.a. Cûcû (now that we have @guka), i partly agree with you as this goes hand in hand with my initial argument. There are numerous pathogens that cause colds (both viruses and bacteria). Ask your medic pal if vaccination by an antiviral will also prevent bacterial infections.

Since Influenza vaccination is required annually, you may have a point in it being a marketing thing, but it remains true, that the influenza virus is dynamic....
wanjirus
#5 Posted : Monday, October 18, 2010 1:46:18 PM
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Thanks guys,I have just talked to a health worker, she has told me to harden the kid though not like a spartan, not to pamper him so much,let them become hardy like street kids.
newfarer
#6 Posted : Monday, October 18, 2010 1:59:55 PM
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wanjirus wrote:
Thanks guys,I have just talked to a health worker, she has told me to harden the kid though not like a spartan, not to pamper him so much,let them become hardy like street kids.


I like that advise you got ,most of us never got this vaccine , flu come and goes , just like that .Lemon juice and honey is enough when flu comes visiting.
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Shak
#7 Posted : Monday, October 18, 2010 2:11:51 PM
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I'm also a first time parent and i read in a childrens medical book that children under the age of 1 should not be given honey. No reason was given. Any medic or nutritionist with some insight on this?
Wendz
#8 Posted : Monday, October 18, 2010 2:19:32 PM
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Shak wrote:
I'm also a first time parent and i read in a childrens medical book that children under the age of 1 should not be given honey. No reason was given. Any medic or nutritionist with some insight on this?


You may need proper medical explanation but there is something in honey (botulinum or something like that) that requires properly developed digestive systems..... Given to infants, honey can kill.....
Shak
#9 Posted : Monday, October 18, 2010 2:23:22 PM
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Thanks Wendz. Hope @wanjiru has noted this.
newfarer
#10 Posted : Monday, October 18, 2010 3:44:59 PM
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Warning! Honey is not for babies!
Although honey is a natural, healthy food that normally cannot support bacterial life, it's important to note that it can carry C. botulinum spores which may be harmful to the undeveloped immune systems of infants. The old practice of dipping pacifiers into honey to soothe crying babies should be aborted.

Infants up to one year of age should not be fed raw honey, as their immune systems are not yet developed enough to fend off this normally benign strain. Infection can cause a flaccid paralysis weakening the baby's muscles, causing a "floppy" baby. Other symptoms include constipation, lethargy, poor feeding, weak cry, droopy eyelids, expressionless face, drooling or swallowing difficulty, and occasionally, respiratory arrest. By the age of one year, most children develop enough to resist this normally benign strain of botulinum.

Infant botulism is rarely lethal, but is obviously easy to avoid in this instance. Although food manufacturers make extensive use of honey in their products, baby food manufacturers, as a rule, will not include honey in their foods recommended for those babies under one year of age.

It must also be pointed out that infant botulism is not exclusive to the ingestion of honey. The botulism spore can also be found in dust, soil and other uncooked foods that older children and adults are exposed to daily. The risk is minimal. Yet, it is an avoidable risk, and honey should not be fed to infants under the age of twelve months. Don't play the odds

http://homecooking.about...mation/a/honeyhealth.htm
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