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A guide to imporing cars from Japan
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Tebes
#21 Posted : Tuesday, October 12, 2010 3:39:14 PM
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mukiha wrote:
What I cant understand is why KRA doesn't have a duty calculator on their website; or do they?
@ Mukiha 1.First check the CRSP price for the vehicle here http://www.kra.go.ke/notices/New_CRSP_List-09.xls 2. Once you get the crsp FOR THE VEHICLE YOU want, enter the figure in the valuation templete depending on whether the vehicle attracts Excise duty, VAT or Import duty. All passenger vehicles attract all the duty regimes. Hence you would enter the CRSP figure you get in Cell D18 of the valuation templete in this link; http://www.kra.go.ke/cus...-%20Motor%20Vehicles.xls 3.The customs value calculated using the templete is then compared to the CIF value (cost of the vehicle + freight + Marine Insurance) . KRA then picks whichever is higher. 4. If CIF is lower than the Customs value, you will pay the amount as indicated in the templete. 5. If CIF is higher than Customs value, then simply enter that value in place of customs value. 6.IDF is 2.25% of CIF/Customs value.
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JkMwatha
#22 Posted : Tuesday, October 12, 2010 11:45:17 PM
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half_empty wrote:
Good stuff VJ. Once paid extra duty after being told that the first payment was rejected by KRA for being insufficient. Something to do with the model having more specs compared to the one listed on CRSP. Now wondering whether my clearing agent set me up.
No I don't think your agent set you up. If the the specs of the car (esp. CC/ V6 or V8 etc) are higher than listed on the KRA's CRSP list, they will charge you more... not sure how they decide on the figure but they will come up with one (in some cases, the next model up or nearest higher model). ...but if your clearing agent was 'clued up' he would have told you that it would cost more (even if he/she did not know how much more).
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Chaka
#23 Posted : Wednesday, October 13, 2010 10:51:37 AM
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How does KRA come up with CRSP of vehicles which are out of production?The eight year old cars being imported cannot be found in local showrooms as new??
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Vj
#24 Posted : Wednesday, October 13, 2010 11:30:18 AM
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JkMwatha wrote:
half_empty wrote:
Good stuff VJ. Once paid extra duty after being told that the first payment was rejected by KRA for being insufficient. Something to do with the model having more specs compared to the one listed on CRSP. Now wondering whether my clearing agent set me up.
No I don't think your agent set you up. If the the specs of the car (esp. CC/ V6 or V8 etc) are higher than listed on the KRA's CRSP list, they will charge you more... not sure how they decide on the figure but they will come up with one (in some cases, the next model up or nearest higher model). ...but if your clearing agent was 'clued up' he would have told you that it would cost more (even if he/she did not know how much more).
Mwatha is quite right, KRA customs agents normally inspect the car before releasing it, if they find it to have higher specifications like a bigger engine or additional premium features they tend to use the CRSP value of a car of the brand that will usually have the higher specifications. for example the 1800cc Nissan Sunny FB15 is not listed in the CRSP list hence you will pay duty based on the CRSP value of the Nissan Bluebird as it has identical feature to the 1800cc Sunny. However such cases of revaluation are not very common as the CRSP is quite detailed. If clearing agents are to set you up, they conspire with KRA agents to derail the clearing process, so that you have to fetch some kitu kidogo(which both will eat) to bring the process back on track. There are also some who ask unsuspecting customers for money to pay for non-existent charges. @Chaka: KRA gets the CRSP list from the Kenya Motor Industry Association(KMI), but how prices of discontinued motor vehicle are obtained is a mystery to me. Perhaps they use the price of the car when it was available in the showroom and appreciate that price according to current inflationary trends.
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FundamentAli
#25 Posted : Wednesday, October 13, 2010 1:16:03 PM
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This guys at KRA are becoming smarter. Recently brought in a car and had to pay an extra 100K in duty because my car has leather seats. Showroom difference in price for the fabric and non fabric model is 600K. Gone are those days when they just used to look at the model and not the extras. If your car has turbo, the same applies. However, you can calculate the exact duty if you have all the facts beforehand.
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mukiha
#26 Posted : Wednesday, October 13, 2010 2:55:24 PM
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Tebes wrote:
mukiha wrote:
What I cant understand is why KRA doesn't have a duty calculator on their website; or do they?
@ Mukiha 1.First check the CRSP price for the vehicle here http://www.kra.go.ke/notices/New_CRSP_List-09.xls 2. Once you get the crsp FOR THE VEHICLE YOU want, enter the figure in the valuation templete depending on whether the vehicle attracts Excise duty, VAT or Import duty. All passenger vehicles attract all the duty regimes. Hence you would enter the CRSP figure you get in Cell D18 of the valuation templete in this link; http://www.kra.go.ke/cus...-%20Motor%20Vehicles.xls 3.The customs value calculated using the templete is then compared to the CIF value (cost of the vehicle + freight + Marine Insurance) . KRA then picks whichever is higher. 4. If CIF is lower than the Customs value, you will pay the amount as indicated in the templete. 5. If CIF is higher than Customs value, then simply enter that value in place of customs value. 6.IDF is 2.25% of CIF/Customs value.
Is it not possible to have an automated system where I enter the details of the vehicle; make model, year, extras etc and get the duty estimate? A kind of marriage between the two excel sheets?
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Wakandi
#27 Posted : Thursday, October 14, 2010 5:05:07 PM
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Hi guys, anyone ever bought a unit from http://www.beforward.jp/seem to have very cheap albeit not very good grade of cars
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mjuaji wa stocks
#28 Posted : Thursday, October 14, 2010 5:25:31 PM
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@wakandi....yes They are ok and have good prices.....only that you need to carefully check on millage and condition from the pics they display. Negotiate kabisa.....then speed / push them when it comes to shipping! All the best.
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bartum
#29 Posted : Saturday, October 16, 2010 3:49:53 PM
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i wish to import a nissan sunny B15. Which duty regimes do this vehicle have ie betw excise, import and VAT is charged. Some one assist me
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Tebes
#30 Posted : Saturday, October 16, 2010 4:01:27 PM
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@Bartum All passenger cars charged Import duty, Excise duty and VAT. Yes, B15 included. Its only pick-ups and lorries that dont have Excise duty but still are charged import duty and VAT.
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