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Zain receives HALF A MILLION NEW SUBSCRIBERS in one week
ECHOKENYA
#121 Posted : Friday, September 17, 2010 5:00:46 PM
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When Bharti got into the India market,there was one big 'safaricom' there and he had to give 6 MONTH FREE CALLING.

Safcom,watchout!
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Much Know
#122 Posted : Friday, September 17, 2010 5:19:58 PM
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Bharti can give free calls here, its all good, they have already started rerouting all customer care calls and software coding to India(Kenyans loosing jobs), they have sold all their towers to Bharti Infratel, which is shipping towers from India (all those Kenyan fabricators your contracts are off to India) even promotional material and re-branding material is being prepared where? One good thing is Safcom and MJ insist they will source staff that can be got from Kenya, in Kenya. Funny thing, they have not cut call cost anywhere else in Africa, including countries which charge three times the previous charges because they have dominance there.
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Elder
#123 Posted : Friday, September 17, 2010 8:14:08 PM
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Much Know wrote:
Bharti can give free calls here, its all good, they have already started rerouting all customer care calls and software coding to India(Kenyans loosing jobs), they have sold all their towers to Bharti Infratel, which is shipping towers from India (all those Kenyan fabricators your contracts are off to India) even promotional material and re-branding material is being prepared where? One good thing is Safcom and MJ insist they will source staff that can be got from Kenya, in Kenya. Funny thing, they have not cut call cost anywhere else in Africa, including countries which charge three times the previous charges because they have dominance there.


The Safaricom and MJ who was charging the Kenyans they love so much 8 bob a minute? Safaricom with a non-Kenyan CEO and non-Kenyan replacement? Please.....they are all the same. Don't play the nationality angle.
He who can express in words the ardour of his love, has but little love to express. - Petrach, Son. (That men by various ways arrive at the same end. - Montaigne, The Essays of.)
chris79
#124 Posted : Friday, September 17, 2010 8:24:40 PM
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@Elder, I didn't hear you complain when Zain was charging you 8 bob across all networks. Don't for a moment think any of zain is doing this coz they love you. Actually they don't. They are doing what they believe makes business sense to them. Safaricom did what made business sense to them. It's purely business, not a love affair...
Elder
#125 Posted : Friday, September 17, 2010 9:19:12 PM
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chris79 wrote:
@Elder, I didn't hear you complain when Zain was charging you 8 bob across all networks. Don't for a moment think any of zain is doing this coz they love you. Actually they don't. They are doing what they believe makes business sense to them. Safaricom did what made business sense to them. It's purely business, not a love affair...


I did complain when they sneaked in the night and cancelled vuka but it was just not here so maybe that is why you did not 'hear' me. For your information just before they reduced their rates I was calling Zain numbers at 3 bob per minute and other numbers at 6 bob a minute so it was still cheaper than Safaricom for me.

But if you care to re-read my post above I have not said that Zain are clean and Safaricom are bad. In fact I wrote that '...they are all the same.' The problem I have with MuchKnow's post is his trying to paint Safaricom as the good guys who care about Kenya while Zain are the bad boys who are taking our jobs away.

In short, I agree with you that all the subscribers will do 'what they believe makes business sense to them'. I just won't buy the crap that Safaricom loves Kenya so much.
He who can express in words the ardour of his love, has but little love to express. - Petrach, Son. (That men by various ways arrive at the same end. - Montaigne, The Essays of.)
YesuWangu
#126 Posted : Monday, September 20, 2010 11:20:23 AM
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Eh? Ati safaricom loves Kenya so much? Laughing out loudly!
KulaRaha
#127 Posted : Monday, September 20, 2010 11:29:09 AM
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YesuWangu wrote:

Eh? Ati safaricom loves Kenya so much? Laughing out loudly!


Yes yes, Safcon loves Kenya while Zain hates Kenya.

Safcon gives away free ipads, free netbooks, etc etc Zain gives nothing.

Safcon made $250M from 13M subs....but all this was for the love of Kenya.

Inflation dropped from 3.6% to 3.2% because Zain's price war to 3/=, but they hate Kenya while Safcon loves us.

So, on 23rd, when Safcon goes back to 8/=, please make sure you use the network that loves you...
Business opportunities are like buses,there's always another one coming
Sober
#128 Posted : Monday, September 20, 2010 1:34:15 PM
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@kularaha.
who said we are going back to 8bob. safcom is going for the jugular, a great offer that will leave the other players in the telecom industry on their knees begging. 3 days to go
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KulaRaha
#129 Posted : Monday, September 20, 2010 2:13:20 PM
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Sober wrote:
@kularaha.
who said we are going back to 8bob. safcom is going for the jugular, a great offer that will leave the other players in the telecom industry on their knees begging. 3 days to go


Waiting with bated breath!!

But such info must make Safcon shareholders shiver....imagine going lower than current rates...revenues will soon be lower than costs!
Business opportunities are like buses,there's always another one coming
Much Know
#130 Posted : Monday, September 20, 2010 2:29:21 PM
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KulaRaha wrote:

Waiting with bated breath!!

But such info must make Safcon shareholders shiver....imagine going lower than current rates...revenues will soon be lower than costs!

Not necessarily,we are actually waiting for the pounce!, read the copy and paste from wikipedia below.
Price war is a term used in economic sector to indicate a state of intense competitive rivalry accompanied by a multi-lateral series of price reduction. One competitor will lower its price, then others will lower their prices to match. If one of them reduces their price again, a new round of reductions starts. In the short-term, price wars are good for consumers, who can take advantage of lower prices. Often they are not good for the companies involved. The lower prices reduce profit margins and can threaten their survival.

In the medium to long term, they can be good for the dominant firms in the industry. Typically, the smaller, more marginal, firms cannot compete and must close. The remaining firms absorb the market share of those that have closed. The real losers then, are the marginal firms and their investors. In the long term, the consumer may lose too. With fewer firms in the industry, prices tend to increase, sometimes higher than before the price war started.

Keep telling you, there is nothing to celebrate here. So just like you, we are waiting with bated breath, they are already wincing from the effect, "we don't care about profits at this point" the say!
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mozenrat
#131 Posted : Monday, September 20, 2010 7:33:41 PM
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ECHOKENYA wrote:
When Bharti got into the India market,there was one big 'safaricom' there and he had to give 6 MONTH FREE CALLING.

Safcom,watchout!



and the first thing vodaphone did is buy shares in Bharti via vodaphone holdings
Elder
#132 Posted : Monday, September 27, 2010 3:38:34 PM
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Sober wrote:
@kularaha.
who said we are going back to 8bob. safcom is going for the jugular, a great offer that will leave the other players in the telecom industry on their knees begging. 3 days to go


Liar Liar Liar Still waiting. Hii Wazua iko na maneno kweli. Pray Pray
He who can express in words the ardour of his love, has but little love to express. - Petrach, Son. (That men by various ways arrive at the same end. - Montaigne, The Essays of.)
KulaRaha
#133 Posted : Monday, September 27, 2010 4:09:50 PM
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Elder wrote:
Sober wrote:
@kularaha.
who said we are going back to 8bob. safcom is going for the jugular, a great offer that will leave the other players in the telecom industry on their knees begging. 3 days to go


Liar Liar Liar Still waiting. Hii Wazua iko na maneno kweli. Pray Pray


Extending an offer for one more month, has definetely got the other players on their knees.......

On their knees begging for more fumbles and mishits from Safcon...

What jugular? Youre not even going for a capillary!
Business opportunities are like buses,there's always another one coming
kyt
#134 Posted : Wednesday, September 29, 2010 7:18:40 PM
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Nice words elder, as always elder has wise words. Na bado when zain launches its 3G platform kuna mtu atafunga shop hapa kuna mtu atalia na macho mbili.
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gathinga
#135 Posted : Thursday, October 14, 2010 11:33:16 AM
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Can somebody post the subsriber numbers as at end of Sept. we need to seperate 'ngano na thawati'
McReggae
#136 Posted : Thursday, October 14, 2010 1:31:29 PM
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gathinga wrote:
Can somebody post the subsriber numbers as at end of Sept. we need to seperate 'ngano na thawati'


I think status has remained almost the same, no big change in litmus paper!!!
..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
KulaRaha
#137 Posted : Thursday, October 14, 2010 1:51:29 PM
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McReggae wrote:
gathinga wrote:
Can somebody post the subsriber numbers as at end of Sept. we need to seperate 'ngano na thawati'


I think status has remained almost the same, no big change in litmus paper!!!


Really? Then why extend the 3 bob offer for another month, and start a new sms offer?
Business opportunities are like buses,there's always another one coming
mukiha
#138 Posted : Thursday, October 14, 2010 2:26:06 PM
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KulaRaha wrote:
McReggae wrote:
gathinga wrote:
Can somebody post the subsriber numbers as at end of Sept. we need to seperate 'ngano na thawati'


I think status has remained almost the same, no big change in litmus paper!!!


Really? Then why extend the 3 bob offer for another month, and start a new sms offer?

... to lock-in subscribers
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mlefu
#139 Posted : Thursday, October 14, 2010 3:16:32 PM
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zain should come up with another stupid move that will ease their close shop process..so far they have done 69%...like call UK for 3 bob
KulaRaha
#140 Posted : Friday, October 15, 2010 9:04:42 AM
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mukiha wrote:
KulaRaha wrote:
McReggae wrote:
gathinga wrote:
Can somebody post the subsriber numbers as at end of Sept. we need to seperate 'ngano na thawati'


I think status has remained almost the same, no big change in litmus paper!!!


Really? Then why extend the 3 bob offer for another month, and start a new sms offer?

... to lock-in subscribers


You lock in with limited time offers or permanent deals?
Business opportunities are like buses,there's always another one coming
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