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Kosgey appoints kosgey as Kebs boss
grolut
#21 Posted : Tuesday, October 12, 2010 2:21:01 AM
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From that article:

"The first candidate in the three names submitted to the minister is currently employed, and earns a salary of Sh1.084 million, but had told the NSCE he was willing to work for Sh900 thousand or less.

The NSC said: “This raises a lot of queries as to why one would leave a well paying job and go for less pay. How then will he or she maintain the status quo of his living style?”"

Kwani no one in Kenya can work for less money to improve a government agency? Says alot about our leadership values. What a pointless statement.
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#22 Posted : Tuesday, October 12, 2010 9:11:11 AM
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One Dr. Kioko mang'eli,a competent md was shown the door for refusing interference and pm's hand was seen there...now kosgei puts in a clansman worse enough a mr. kosgei contrary to the boards wishes....obviously dont expect the president or pm to comment becoz kosgei is loyal to them and am sure he consulted them....in your honest opinions can this minister convince you he is right and when will this tribalism and impunity end??
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Sasha
#23 Posted : Tuesday, October 12, 2010 11:00:20 AM
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I get it from someone in the know that Mang'eli had doubled his salary contrary to government regulations. The government blue book has pegged the KEBS MD's salary to Kshs 750k. Mang'eli (though with the consent of the board) was paying himself Kshs 1.5m!!

There is more than meets the eye in this scandal. The board of KEBS had shortlisted 5 guys instead of the required 3 guys. Of the 5 two had already been disqualified, 1 for being 56 years old and the other for asking for a Kshs 2.1 million salary. The other 2 were the Mr Koskei who was appointed, and a Mr Aduda in 4th and 5th place.

Mr Koskei is actually very qualified for the post and is in his mid - late 30s. Also, 8 out of the 13 directors were opposed to the chairman's actions in unilaterally forwarding the names of 3 nominees without consulting them!

There is more than meets the eye in this issue!
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#24 Posted : Tuesday, October 12, 2010 11:50:59 AM
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Sasha, hear hear!!!
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#25 Posted : Tuesday, October 12, 2010 1:08:13 PM
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are we complaining because Henry Kosgei appointed a fellow tribesman? have we looked at the qualifications of Mr. Koskei and found him unqualified for such an appointment? Did we raise a similar alarm when Kimunya appointed a fellow kiuk to head KAA, and when Kibaki appointed the new CID boss? are kenyans just too chok-a-blok with tribal rhetoric?
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#26 Posted : Tuesday, October 12, 2010 1:16:14 PM
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Mbatalya, we are complaining bcoz the appointed jamaa was not even in the top 3. And kosgey over-looked, shame! shame!
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#27 Posted : Tuesday, October 12, 2010 1:42:21 PM
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kyt wrote:
Mbatalya, we are complaining bcoz the appointed jamaa was not even in the top 3. And kosgey over-looked, shame! shame!


....has the board members said the same????Shame on you
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#28 Posted : Tuesday, October 12, 2010 2:36:48 PM
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Sasha wrote:
I get it from someone in the know that Mang'eli had doubled his salary contrary to government regulations. The government blue book has pegged the KEBS MD's salary to Kshs 750k. Mang'eli (though with the consent of the board) was paying himself Kshs 1.5m!!

There is more than meets the eye in this scandal. The board of KEBS had shortlisted 5 guys instead of the required 3 guys. Of the 5 two had already been disqualified, 1 for being 56 years old and the other for asking for a Kshs 2.1 million salary. The other 2 were the Mr Koskei who was appointed, and a Mr Aduda in 4th and 5th place.

Mr Koskei is actually very qualified for the post and is in his mid - late 30s. Also, 8 out of the 13 directors were opposed to the chairman's actions in unilaterally forwarding the names of 3 nominees without consulting them!

There is more than meets the eye in this issue!



Good info Sasha.

The Board Chairman, The Permanent Secretary and the assistant Minister in the docket all come from the same ethnic community, could it be that they did have a common interest?Liar Liar Liar
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YesuWangu
#29 Posted : Tuesday, October 12, 2010 2:52:38 PM
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grolut wrote:
From that article:

"The first candidate in the three names submitted to the minister is currently employed, and earns a salary of Sh1.084 million, but had told the NSCE he was willing to work for Sh900 thousand or less.

The NSC said: “This raises a lot of queries as to why one would leave a well paying job and go for less pay. How then will he or she maintain the status quo of his living style?”"

Kwani no one in Kenya can work for less money to improve a government agency? Says alot about our leadership values. What a pointless statement.


true that the 100k or so difference might not make a big dent in his pocket.

he wanted that job badly. how badly? what did he see in it? to him was it just another job or something greater, like a cash cow or golden-egg-laying-goose?

those are legitimate musings bwana.
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#30 Posted : Tuesday, October 12, 2010 2:52:44 PM
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so we have two sides to the story.

this saga requires just one more action to be complete: someone publicly ordering kosgey to step aside until investigations are complete.

but wait a minute - i think he comes from the holy party. so that does not apply here.
McReggae
#31 Posted : Tuesday, October 12, 2010 3:40:01 PM
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......and who are three shortlisted candidates????
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#32 Posted : Tuesday, October 12, 2010 3:58:06 PM
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Until Kibs leads by example, lesser mortals in his gava will always act as they please. He appoints his tribesmen to key positions and rarely sees qualified candidates from other regions. We can argue until the cows come home, but if I was Kosgey, I would appoint Kosgey knowing that no one can do anything about it. Kimunya did it at KPA and KAA. Nyongo at KMTC, and even Raila's sister is an ambassador.
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grolut
#33 Posted : Tuesday, October 12, 2010 5:02:35 PM
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YesuWangu wrote:


true that the 100k or so difference might not make a big dent in his pocket.

he wanted that job badly. how badly? what did he see in it? to him was it just another job or something greater, like a cash cow or golden-egg-laying-goose?

those are legitimate musings bwana.


That's a valid point and I hope the individual was asked those questions in the interview. From the article it just seemed as if he was not even questioned. We shouldn't fixate on salary, people have investments elsewhere.
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#34 Posted : Tuesday, October 12, 2010 5:09:56 PM
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BY HENRY KOSGEY

I have via a notice published in the Kenya Gazette on 8th October 2010, Legal Notice number 11901, appointed Joseph Kipketer Koskey the Managing Director of Kenya Bureau of Standards.

Sections of the press have reported that the Chairman of the National Standards Council, Karanja Thiong’o, the Permanent Secretary in my Ministry, Karanja Kibicho and Assistant Minister Nderitu Muriithi, as being critical of the appointment.

The facts of the appointment are as follows:

1. It is true that the Chairman of the national Standards Council signed a letter forwarding three names that had allegedly been shortlisted by the Council.

2. It however became apparent that the Chairman acted without the authority of the Council. Soon after receiving the chairman’s letter, I received correspondence from Council members informing me that there had been no consensus in the shortlist forwarded by the Chairman. They informed me that the letter was written before the selection process was complete and did not have the support of the Council. The correspondence I received detailed the following:

2.1 The current recruitment exercise that began in August 2010 received 74 applications out of which 15 people were shortlisted and 11 people interviewed.

2.2. In order to ensure transparency all the candidates were coded and their real names and identity not disclosed to the Chairman, Council members, the Permanent Secretary or myself.

2.3. At the end of the interview process the candidates were scored based on the questions asked and the top 5 candidates were deemed suitable for appointment subject to further vetting.

2.4 The council resolved to hold another meeting to vet the candidates further using three criteria; integrity; salary demands; track record.

2.5 Before this meeting could take place, the Chairman made a unilateral decision to forward names based purely on the mean scores and refused to hold a meeting to conduct any further vetting.

3. Faced with the concerns of the Council members, I directed them to hold a further meeting to try and achieve a consensus within the Council. Unfortunately, further meetings held by the Council failed to achieve any consensus. Minutes of the meetings show the division within the Council. A protest letter to the Chairman that was signed by 8 out of 13 Council members and copied to my Permanent Secretary and myself also details the lack of consensus.

4. Furthermore, minutes of a meeting held on Wednesday 6th October, show that the Council resolved that the lack of consensus requires the Minister to use his discretion in making the appointment. This discretion should be exercised from among the 5 candidates who were interviewed and who reached the final shortlist. These candidates would have been subject to a further vetting process had the Chairman respected the wishes the Council and allowed the process to reach its conclusion.

5. I therefore exercised my discretion and analyzed the 5 candidates as follows:

5.1. KEBS 039 decoded as Abdikadir Omar Aden scored 70%. He achieved a high score however he requested for a salary of KShs1,084,000. He later indicated that he was willing to have it reduced to KShs.900,000. This is still a high figure considering that the next highest paid employee at the Bureau, after the M.D., earns KShs.290,000.

5.2 KEBS 016 decoded as Eva Adega Oduor scored 66%. She is currently one of the Directors at KEBS and worked closely with the previous M.D. There was a general feeling that while she may be competent a new person should be appointed to bring new energy and ideas in the running of the Organization.

5.3 KEBS 019 decoded as John Mtuta Mruttu scored 64%. Like KEBS 039, this candidate has requested for a very high salary. He currently earns KShs.1,200,000 and indicated to the Board that he wished to have a 10% salary increase that would bring his pay to KShs.1,320,000. In addition, the candidate is aged 56 years and would be aged 59 years at the end of a standard three years contract. In an ideal situation the new M.D. should serve more than one term, this candidate would be aged 62 years at the end of two terms.

5.4 KEBS 011 decoded as Joseph Kipketer Koskey scored 62%. Although his score placed him at position four, the difference between him and the next best person is only 2 percentage points. Secondly his fourth place position, out of 74 applicants, was impressive and was due to what the Council members described as a strong financial track record in his previous employments. In addition, his youth, integrity and reasonable salary requirements were all positive attributes.

5.5 KEBS 025 decoded as Michael Ochieng Owino scored 57%. He came fifth in the scoring. However the difference between him and KEBS 011 was 5 percentage points and that between him and the highest scoring candidate was more than 10 percentage points.

6. At the end of my analysis I was guided by two points in order to make a decision.. These were:

6.1 The salary of the new Managing Director would have to be between KShs.500,000 and Kshs.750,000. This salary scale is in accordance with guidelines for State Corporations that are in the same range as KEBS. In addition the Council had already discussed and agreed on this salary scale and this fact is captured in the minutes of those meetings. Therefore taking the issue of the salary into consideration, I eliminated KEBS 039 and KEBS 019 as possible candidates for the appointment.

6.2 It would be ideal if the new Managing Director came from outside the Organization so as to bring fresh ideas in the management of KEBS. This wish had also been expressed by the Council and is captured in the minutes of their meetings. Therefore, using this criterion, I eliminated KEBS 016 as a possible candidate for the appointment.

7. After eliminating KEBS 039, KEBS 016 and KEBS 019, I concluded that the next best candidate was KEBS 011, Joseph Kipketer Koskey. I therefore issued Legal Notice number 11901, appointing him as the Managing Director of the Kenya Bureau of Standards. The Legal Notice was published in the Kenya Gazette on 8th October 2010.

8. It is important to note that this appointment is within procedure as the law allows the Minister to use his discretion in making appointments. Further, the appointment was made from among the candidates who applied, were interviewed and shortlisted and in accordance with recommendations made by a majority of the national Standards Council.

9. It is also important to note that the allegations of tribalism have no basis whatsoever. Firstly the identify of all the applicants was not known to any party until the process was concluded and the names were decoded. Secondly, as the analysis above shows, Joseph Kipketer Koskey is a capable man who achieved a high score in the interview process and does indeed merit the appointment. It is not fair that he be excluded simply because he comes from the same ethnic background as the Minister.

10. In making my decision, I was also guided by the fact that the position of the KEBS M.D. has remained vacant for over 1 year. The current M.D. has been in office in acting capacity during this period. The law does not permit a Managing Director to remain in office in an acting capacity for more than 6 months. I therefore made my decision with a view to ensuring compliance with the law.

11. Finally, I believe that I have acted in the best interests of my Ministry and that of the Kenya Bureau of Standards.
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#35 Posted : Wednesday, October 13, 2010 10:17:02 PM
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What legal actions are viable? Just thinking.
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#36 Posted : Thursday, October 14, 2010 9:30:55 AM
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ukiangalia vizuri you will notice that this has been discussed in this forum
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#37 Posted : Thursday, October 14, 2010 10:00:32 AM
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McReggae wrote:
......and who are three shortlisted candidates????


Nation newspaper ya 14th October 2010, back page
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#38 Posted : Thursday, October 14, 2010 10:48:36 AM
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