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Mwene
#1 Posted : Thursday, October 07, 2010 5:01:47 PM
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Dear Wazua forum members

Wondering if anyone can assist with information in respect of the following matter - a group I belong to planned to put up 18 modern townhouses in Garden Estate Nairobi, each sitting on 0.25 acres instead of the mandatory 0.5acres. The City Council refuses to approve, even though its been granted to others. The development is well researched with all facilities taken care, and we see the City refusal as unreasonable. Does anyone know someone who can assist without having to ask for a bribe?
Apple Bees
#2 Posted : Thursday, October 07, 2010 5:10:43 PM
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Sorry, i could have helped, but the Kanjo who used to help got nabbed by PLO's boys!
Njung'e
#3 Posted : Thursday, October 07, 2010 6:13:22 PM
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We have an Ombudsman in this country,don't we??.......I doubt anyone here can remember his/her name let alone where his/her offices are allocated.....and the idiot earns>Kweli Kenya ina mambo!
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nostoppingthis
#4 Posted : Thursday, October 07, 2010 7:08:23 PM
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Njung'e wrote:
We have an Ombudsman in this country,don't we??.......I doubt anyone here can remember his/her name let alone where his/her offices are allocated.....and the idiot earns>Kweli Kenya ina mambo!


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grolut
#5 Posted : Thursday, October 07, 2010 10:59:03 PM
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Wasn't the Ombudsman lamenting last year that they had no power to act on complaints? The thing is a joke.
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#6 Posted : Friday, October 08, 2010 1:31:31 AM
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Mwene wrote:
Dear Wazua forum members

Wondering if anyone can assist with information in respect of the following matter - a group I belong to planned to put up 18 modern townhouses in Garden Estate Nairobi, each sitting on 0.25 acres instead of the mandatory 0.5acres. The City Council refuses to approve, even though its been granted to others. The development is well researched with all facilities taken care, and we see the City refusal as unreasonable. Does anyone know someone who can assist without having to ask for a bribe?


@Mwene - if the mandatory acreage is 0.5 acres, why do you want to do 0.25 acres? I am sure that there is a reason why it is 0.5 and not 0.25. To allow you to do that would be promoting impunity.

Oh, the fact that others have it doesn't make it right. In fact someone else should fight so that the 0.25 acre houses are merged back to 0.5 acres.

Really, this is where we go wrong as a country. We don't want to do things the right way, and when someone enforces the law, we want to go round that person (without bribing) :)

kiriita
#7 Posted : Friday, October 08, 2010 8:04:18 AM
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@ Mkimwa,
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#8 Posted : Friday, October 08, 2010 9:52:54 AM
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@Mwene - if the mandatory acreage is 0.5 acres, why do you want to do 0.25 acres? I am sure that there is a reason why it is 0.5 and not 0.25. To allow you to do that would be promoting impunity.

Oh, the fact that others have it doesn't make it right. In fact someone else should fight so that the 0.25 acre houses are merged back to 0.5 acres.

Really, this is where we go wrong as a country. We don't want to do things the right way, and when someone enforces the law, we want to go round that person (without bribing) :)

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@Mwene

Unajifanya umeokoka? You are very useless. Use 0.5 if that is what the regulations there demand. You are more corrupt than the Kanjuras. Where I come from, an evil thought is worse than the action itself.

{This is where I will get into trouble}. I have a problem with the way MAJORITY of Kenyans reason, in a loop sided way or with short term projection. Sample these.

This guy gets a windfall, goes to a bar, buys friends and barmaids drinks mpaka che and withing a week, he is back to borrowing money or drinking on credit.

Wanjiru is more recognized and appreciated in Japan than in his mother country where he has brought gold medals. Hata neighbours do not consider him to be a hero. Heroes are those who loot the biggest amount of money and vie for elections.

It is okay to take Ruto to the hague but baba jimmy should be allowed to retire peacefully cauze he brought a new constitution (The guy actually had a bonfire put under his ass all this time by one Obama to ensure reforms take place before he dies).

Ruto is only a very tiny part of the jigsaw that needs to be rebuilt and sentences ranging from 15yrs to 65yrs being dished out generously to one UK, the rattler, FB, Kibor, Baba J, RO, and all those who contributed in anyway {including me as I bankrolled ODM campaigns knowing the money would be channeled elsewhere}...

Scangroup shooting to the stars when I bought them at 35, sold at 28 and now are at 75. Something does not add up here.

I suspect Maziwa ya Nyayo has something to do with our warped thinking.
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Injere
#9 Posted : Friday, October 08, 2010 5:41:38 PM
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Well, the truth is that if 0.5 acre is what is required, pls go by that. You may bribe your way thro at NCC but the residents will NOT let this go thro. These days, things are different. You can treat this advise as very reliable....Ridgeways &
Garden estate residents association will not allow this... Again this is very valuable advise offered for free. Save your money!
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#10 Posted : Friday, October 08, 2010 11:23:49 PM
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Maze @surelligator, that maziwa ya nyayo must have really f**ked you up, or is it that some shrapnel got lodged in your brain in Afghanistan?
tony stark
#11 Posted : Saturday, October 09, 2010 12:37:09 AM
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Gordon Gekko wrote:
Maze @surelligator, that maziwa ya nyayo must have really f**ked you up, or is it that some shrapnel got lodged in your brain in Afghanistan?

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#12 Posted : Saturday, October 09, 2010 9:16:35 PM
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Mwene, this is a tough forum, if u expected symphathy; well pole, but then again good friends tell u the truth and the truth hurts. Thank God u have good friends tommorrow.
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Mwene
#13 Posted : Tuesday, October 12, 2010 1:17:30 PM
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kyt wrote:
Mwene, this is a tough forum, if u expected symphathy; well pole, but then again good friends tell u the truth and the truth hurts. Thank God u have good friends tommorrow.



I disagree, Wazua is NOT a tough forum. What we have is a few individuals who are given to vulgarity. Fortunately, one can easily see who they are, by the way they respond to issues. You call these ''good friends''? I have to really think about that!! The enquiry on Garden Estate was very straightforward. I expected that someone would respond directly to what was asked. I DID NOT NEED the superfluous advice that I have seen from a couple of characters of the ''know it all'' type. In future, I wish people would learn to only answer what they have been asked for.
Pablo
#14 Posted : Tuesday, October 12, 2010 2:22:59 PM
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How do I rob a bank??
Any one please anwer THE QUESTION ASKED.

Mwene surely!!!
Shak
#15 Posted : Tuesday, October 12, 2010 3:26:16 PM
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How can you possibly fit 18 town houses on a quarter of an acre? That's serious over development if not impossible. Or were you referring to apartments? What happens to the quality of the open space which is just as important if not more than what has been built? Thank God someone at the council has the sense to reject your application.
esther85
#16 Posted : Tuesday, October 12, 2010 3:46:21 PM
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that councilor from Kitusuru...i have forgotten his name.locate him quickly
Jamani
#17 Posted : Tuesday, October 12, 2010 4:11:33 PM
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esther85 wrote:
that councilor from Kitusuru...i have forgotten his name.locate him quickly


He is out of office, but said mnajaribu lakini hamuwezi maliza for those bent towards that line of approach thats hope you can believe in.. look for a kanjola it will be done
kyt
#18 Posted : Tuesday, October 12, 2010 4:23:44 PM
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mwene i told you didnt i?
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Mwene
#19 Posted : Tuesday, October 12, 2010 4:41:13 PM
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Shak wrote:
How can you possibly fit 18 town houses on a quarter of an acre? That's serious over development if not impossible. Or were you referring to apartments? What happens to the quality of the open space which is just as important if not more than what has been built? Thank God someone at the council has the sense to reject your application.



This is a classic example of how people answer things without reading correctly/listening to what the other person said. My email, to quote, clearly said, ''each sitting on 0.25 acres...''. That means that each town house is to be on a quarter acre, not 18 houses crammed on a quarter acre (an impossibility in itself). Kenyans, please pay attention or shut up if you have nothing decent to contribute on a particular subject.
luttz
#20 Posted : Tuesday, October 12, 2010 4:53:12 PM
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@ Mwene
I dont know which part of Garden your group intends to build the houses. If its Garden court, we as the residents are determined to ensure it does not happen. We have set standards as an association and we will not allow greedy people to mess around with our life. We have paid dearly to retain the value of our assets and we will go all the way to fight.
"You've never lived until you've almost died; for those who have fought for it, life has a flavour the protected will never know."
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