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KQ in 2010-11 (Boom, Bust or Blah)
VituVingiSana
#251 Posted : Tuesday, October 05, 2010 10:12:35 PM
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Kenya Airways dismisses talk about competition threat

http://www.eturbonews.co...bout-competition-threat

"Traffic volumes are generally up, tourism is booming again, and business travel has completely revived."

"I think at times, some in the media are submitting to wishful thinking or are influenced by other considerations when they talk about KQ this and KQ that."

"...we are very liquid, even new aircraft purchases are solidly financed."

"...between Nairobi and Juba, has already seen KQ’s share rise into the 30 percent margins..." [This was from a ZERO market share in less than 3 months]
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
Eddy
#252 Posted : Tuesday, October 05, 2010 11:12:39 PM
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Guys tread very carefully on this one, the strike issue should have investors worried. The statement that was put up in the press is an indication that management is very concerned. Though 350 million might look small change the disruptions would dent KQ's image seriously on two fronts as a uncaring employer and strike prone airline.
VituVingiSana
#253 Posted : Tuesday, October 05, 2010 11:15:50 PM
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Eddy wrote:
Guys tread very carefully on this one, the strike issue should have investors worried. The statement that was put up in the press is an indication that management is very concerned. Though 350 million might look small change the disruptions would dent KQ's image seriously on two fronts as a uncaring employer and strike prone airline.

The issue is 'internal' to the Unions but will affect KQ... therefore, if the strike is declared illegal... I say FIRE the fools!
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youcan'tstopusnow
#254 Posted : Wednesday, October 06, 2010 6:10:42 AM
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KQ can't just dismiss that there is no competition regionally. VVS, did you read the article saying 540 has the most destinations regionally?
GOD BLESS YOUR LIFE
VituVingiSana
#255 Posted : Wednesday, October 06, 2010 6:59:08 AM
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youcan'tstopusnow wrote:
KQ can't just dismiss that there is no competition regionally. VVS, did you read the article saying 540 has the most destinations regionally?
LOL... nope, they did not say that! And KQ would be lying if they said so!

I admire what Fly540 has done... captured a market KQ has floundered about coz of their unwieldy structure... Sort of the Equity Bank of airlines!

The article seems to be about the GROWTH in the entire market (which KQ could not fulfill coz of lack of aircraft) so the cake is much larger (of which KQ has a smaller share) with a larger slice...
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seketes
#256 Posted : Wednesday, October 06, 2010 10:01:21 AM
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KQ reaping from juba route. expecting good profits this year.
am guesing they are making 50m in that route a month.
mwanahisa
#257 Posted : Wednesday, October 06, 2010 11:29:00 AM
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@Eddy, If the staff go on strike this time round, I do not anticipate them getting their way. It will also be an opportunity to prune some of the unproductive workers.

I hold 41K shares in KQ and I am sure my investment will suffer in the short run, in the event of a strike. But if mgt keeps on giving in to staff demands without proportionate increase in productivity, I do not seen KQ ever reclaiming its rightful value.

So, Yes I would welcome the strike if that's what it is going to take and YES I will BUY more as the price goes down. Incidentally, the likes of SAA and BA are much more strike prone than KQ and they are still flying high.
VituVingiSana
#258 Posted : Wednesday, October 06, 2010 11:57:31 AM
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If the PRODUCTIVITY rises with PAY then fine... but not just coz KQ staff 'think' they deserve more!
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
Gordon Gekko
#259 Posted : Wednesday, October 06, 2010 1:04:05 PM
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@seketes, your numbers seem to defy my logic. Assume KQ uses Embraer 170 (80 seats single class config) running a load factor of 70% for 5 days a week (20 days/month) and charging US$ 300 per pax at an exchange rate of ksh 80 gives a gross of 27 Million. Sasa 50M inatoka wapi?
VituVingiSana
#260 Posted : Wednesday, October 06, 2010 1:16:54 PM
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Gordon Gekko wrote:
@seketes, your numbers seem to defy my logic. Assume KQ uses Embraer 170 (80 seats single class config) running a load factor of 70% for 5 days a week (20 days/month) and charging US$ 300 per pax at an exchange rate of ksh 80 gives a gross of 27 Million. Sasa 50M inatoka wapi?
I like KQ but @GG points out there is a difference between logic & BS...

Even if KQ flew daily @ 100% PLF = 80 pax x $300 x 30 days x KES 80 = KES 57.6 mn per month [REVENUE not profits]
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