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Mother-tongue for kids
Kamaa
#21 Posted : Wednesday, October 14, 2009 4:00:00 PM
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@Jay R dont get complicated for nothing.. What is the difference between tribal languages and mother tongue..?

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Ali Baba
#22 Posted : Wednesday, October 14, 2009 4:19:00 PM
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Some kenyans feel that not speaking your mother tongue,you are being aristocratic.They think mother tongues are for low,poorly educated,rural domiciled people.How wrong they are ! Ngugi Wa Thiong'o an english professor brought his kids to kenya to learn kikuyu language 'and face Mt Kenya!'

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Mkimwa
#23 Posted : Thursday, October 15, 2009 4:51:00 AM
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What if the mother/father do not even speak their mother tongue?

I know a few ladies and gentlemen,born and bred in different parts of the country,who can hear their mother tongue,but cannot speak it. Most of them,we went to campus together,and are now at one stage of getting married. What mother tongue should their children speak?

Does it really matter? Being able to speak mother tongue in this day and age is not a disadvantage. In fact,if you live in town.. you rarely need it,unless in that matatu,or when you go upcountry.

I believe ability to converse in a national language is more important than speaking in mother tongue.
mukiha
#24 Posted : Thursday, October 15, 2009 4:57:00 AM
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Kenya is a nation of 40+ languages.

Let's not allow them to plummet down to only 2...in one generation!

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#25 Posted : Thursday, October 15, 2009 5:41:00 AM
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@Mkiwa

i think the decision to have ones kids learn a local language is really a personal choice and personally,i dont see anything wrong with it. Just like choosing your own style,personal preferences and not a requirement. There are no disadvantages to it so why not and especially if you are not forcing it down their throats? Its just like choosing to have your kid learn French or Spanish. On some old thread,i was looking for a school i can attend classes to learn Dholuo just because i like it - and though i didnt get a formal school,i am making good progress through my friends..... and am happy.

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#26 Posted : Thursday, October 15, 2009 5:51:00 AM
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I've grown up talking swahili and english,kiuk used to be 'ile ya kuomba maji' so so broken and normally feel disadvantaged and honestly I would have loved to teach bravlets kiuk but mimi mwenyewe ni bure in kiuk,and so is the mum. with this trend unless they get a school that will teach kiuk. the mother tongue,will be extinct in my family tree's next and next generation to come.


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nimimi
#27 Posted : Thursday, October 15, 2009 6:04:00 AM
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The ACK language centre teaches most of the local languages. It is located opposite NSSF. A couple of years ago I attended a Kikuyu refresher course and it was an excellent experience.
Jay R
#28 Posted : Thursday, October 15, 2009 8:24:00 AM
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@kamaa. If you read my post you would have understood what's my take for mother tongue.

Mother tongue= the language being spoken by the mother.

So,if the mother is speaking Italian in the present day when the kid is first learning how to speak,then that would be the son's/daughter's mother tongue.

Advocating kimeru /dholuo /kiuk / kamba / taita when the mother doesn't speak any,that's advocating for tribal language and NOT mother tongue.

If the kid learns Gujirati from the mother as the FIRST language,that's the kid's mother tongue.

That's the fabric of it. As bare as it can get.

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Ali Baba
#29 Posted : Thursday, October 15, 2009 8:57:00 AM
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In North America,unlike Nairobi,we speak in our mother tongues.We use english only when talking to indegenous americans.My kids speak fluent kikuyu.

Ali Baba
jaribu
#30 Posted : Thursday, October 15, 2009 10:57:00 AM
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i hate those bas#$%rds that use mother tongue in public offices!

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akowally
#31 Posted : Friday, October 16, 2009 1:22:00 PM
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... and the ones who have complete disregard for their company,when you are together they always speak mother tongue as though you are invisible

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#32 Posted : Friday, October 16, 2009 1:40:00 PM
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@ako & jaribu

I also dont like it when people speak in a language i do not understand and i am supposed to be part of the group. Unfortunately,I think that has got nothing to do with whether the person knows his mother-tongue or not..... it has everything to do with lack of etiquette and respect for diversity. In any case,there is little we as the public can do about such a person.... it has to be his/her parents or the school he/she attended.

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#33 Posted : Friday, October 16, 2009 2:45:00 PM
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take the child to the village during the long december holidays. its the cheapest most advanced culture school i have ever heard of.

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