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Mother-tongue for kids
jaribu
#1 Posted : Tuesday, September 15, 2009 9:33:00 AM
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Are we killing our mother tongues or we are just bad parents? Most kids I know just speak English or Swahili...okey Sheng if you like. I'm afraid about my 3 years old princess may never know about her roots and culture. As they say- a man without culture is like tree without roots! Do we have a school in Nairobi that teaches mother-tongue to young kids or should I start one? Parents are just too busy to have maximum impact on this area and kids are now being shaped mostly by electronic media,mboch or other kids in the neigbourhood. I know there's a Kenyan school in London that teaches Swahili or Kikuyu to Kenyan kids born in UK but what about here in Kenya? Please advice?


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mukiha
#2 Posted : Tuesday, September 15, 2009 9:52:00 AM
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@jaribu; my two children speak Kikuyu fluently. My wife and I took a strategic decision to speak to the kids in Kikuyu right from birth. In fact,by the time they go to nursery school,Kikuyu is the only language they can understand.

Believe me; if you commit yourself,it is very easy to influence the language that your child learns. The excuse that we are too busy does not carry any water...if you are a serious parent,then your children are the second most important people to you [the most important person being your spouse!!].

For that reason,you should make time for them every day. Tell them about you day,let them tell you about theirs etc and do it in your mother tongue.

Even if your maid is from another tribe,you can still influence the language that your children will speak.

BTW: Contrary to popular belief,children who speak in mother tongue at home do better in English language in school. This fact was proven by Prof. Okoth-Okombo of the UoN in the mid-1980's

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#3 Posted : Tuesday, September 15, 2009 9:54:00 AM
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maybe if u spoke ur mother tongue more often ur baby would pick it up..? starting such a school would be a good idea although you may get mobbed with accusations of being pro tribalism

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jaribu
#4 Posted : Tuesday, September 15, 2009 10:31:00 AM
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mukiha has opened another tinderbox,says he...

'if you are a serious parent,then your children are the second most important people to you [the most important person being your spouse!!]'

aheeem...........do you guys agree or it should be the other way round?



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skodhe
#5 Posted : Tuesday, September 15, 2009 10:33:00 AM
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My son started by learning mother tongue. Right now he is in class 7 and he performs well in English. Tiz one of his best subjects.

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#6 Posted : Tuesday, September 15, 2009 10:37:00 AM
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@mukiha....if am luo and she is kamba....now which language do we speak with the kids??

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#7 Posted : Tuesday, September 15, 2009 10:53:00 AM
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@kingfisher;

You speak to the kid in luo; your wife speaks to the kid in kamba.

The kid grows up as a natural quadrilingual [speaking four languages...luo,kamba,kisahili,english]......what a special person you shall have created? I am now begining to envy you.

BTW: regardless of the languages spoken,the kid shall remain a true Luo.....assuming,of course,that bride price was paid as demanded by the Kamba people when you married their daughter.

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#8 Posted : Tuesday, September 15, 2009 10:53:00 AM
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@ Jaribu

I totally agree with mukiha on the hierachy of importance. Although for me I would add God i.e.

God
Your Wife
Your family
Everything else

If you want your kid to speak mother tongue then mukiha gives you great insight.. Some of us don't really mind if they speak mother tongue or not. Esp in the cross-tribal marriages. As long as you are good parents and you love and treat your kids right,good in discipline,morals e.t.c. The tribe thing is not really relevant in terms of good parenting and its importance varies from family to family. So you and your wife determine the terms,seek advice if necessary,then execute the decision in the best way you can. Join this site for further parenting tips www.babycenter.com

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skodhe
#9 Posted : Tuesday, September 15, 2009 11:01:00 AM
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@kingfisher. Your kids should speak kikamba.that why it is called mother tongue.

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mukiha
#10 Posted : Tuesday, September 15, 2009 11:11:00 AM
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@skodhe:

In our patriarchal society,a child takes the tribe of the father...unless the father did not complete the marital requirements of the tribe of the mother.

Thus the term 'mother tongue' is actually a misnomer. It should be 'father tongue'

Having said that; I know a Kikuyu lady who is married to a Luo man. She speaks perfect Luo and their children also speak perfect Luo.

That is the sort of commitment that we should place on marriage....many modern marriages are 'com-we-stays' with certificates from the AG!!!

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jaribu
#11 Posted : Tuesday, September 15, 2009 11:31:00 AM
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sorry guys but my kids are more important than my wife! I can't stay for a day without seeing them and the reason i wake up early and work so hard is coz of them damn,i think i'm actually living coz of them. you see,if you die today- someone will obviously start fishing in your's wife's migingo in less than 3 months! you can bury your head in the sand as much as you please.......but thats the sad reality. kids 1st!

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Wendz
#12 Posted : Wednesday, October 14, 2009 6:20:00 AM
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@Jaribu

Did you ever get a school for local languages?

its tricky when the you have mixed families. Imagine your wife speaking to the kid in kiuk and you cant understand you have to keep getting translations and you speak to the kid in luo and have to keep translating to your wife..... ama you get relatives in the house speaking in kiuk and you are there and cant understand...... ni ngumu yenyewe.

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#13 Posted : Wednesday, October 14, 2009 6:30:00 AM
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After reading Mukiha's post last month I got challenged and decided to be speaking kikuyu to my kids after all it is the language we use with the house help. My 4 and 2 year old are now hearing although they respond in kiswahili.

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#14 Posted : Wednesday, October 14, 2009 7:09:00 AM
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After the age of 14yrs kids can never forget their mother tongue.The sad thing is that apart from few rural school teaching kids their mother tongue,most school punish students who use it.


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#15 Posted : Wednesday, October 14, 2009 9:27:00 AM
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I have the same concern. So the question is do we have a school in Kenya that teaches mother-tongue?

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wanyo
#16 Posted : Wednesday, October 14, 2009 10:36:00 AM
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@AlphDoti,I think the question has been answered.

What a better school than one in the evening conversing with your kids and asking them how thay hav been during the day in mother tongue.

Or discussing the plan of the day over breakfast in the morning with your kids in mother tongue.

There those rural schools that teach in mother-tongue,but you might not want to go that way if you stay in town.
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Mundu-mugo
#17 Posted : Wednesday, October 14, 2009 12:37:00 PM
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Gheezo
#18 Posted : Wednesday, October 14, 2009 12:43:00 PM
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I support tha ideas.Nowadays I talk to my kids(7 & 2) in Kimeru.They are really enjoying it.hope wataongea soon.Lets keep our M-tongues alive.

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Jay R
#19 Posted : Wednesday, October 14, 2009 2:42:00 PM
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Are people advocating for mother tongue [the language spoken by the mother] or tribal languages? All i would care is for my kids to speak Swahili as Swahili and English as English. In today's world,only my mom speaks to me in tribal tongue.

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#20 Posted : Wednesday, October 14, 2009 2:55:00 PM
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@Jay R

We are talking of our mother tongues,our local languages if you like. But if you want to call them 'tribal languages' that would also do... but yes,thats what we want our children to learn.

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