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kyt
#41 Posted : Wednesday, September 29, 2010 7:09:47 PM
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What happens to people who never get sick like me? The last time i was in an hospital was 2003, prior to that was 1997. In the two occassion, i paid 1k only; cummulatively.
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mukiha
#42 Posted : Thursday, September 30, 2010 9:19:31 AM
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kyt wrote:
What happens to people who never get sick like me? The last time i was in an hospital was 2003, prior to that was 1997. In the two occassion, i paid 1k only; cummulatively.

You pay for those who fall sick. That's the basic idea behind health insurance...
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Zakumi
#43 Posted : Thursday, September 30, 2010 10:02:17 AM
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groupielove wrote:
Sasha wrote:
I seem to remember Dr Richard Muga i.e. the Chairman of the NHIF Board indicating that the main plan is to build another referral hospital in Nairobi.

The grapevine says that the initial plan was to look for land somewhere in Embakasi to build the hospital there. But since land prices are comparatively cheaper in Embakasi and therefore difficult to inflate, the plan changed to Karen where you can easily inflate the prices, thus a chance to embezzle the money.

Other referral hospital are welcome. But why put them in Nairobi? Why not one in Isiolo, another one in Kisii, another one in Voi etc. Why should someone come all the way from Loiyangalani to come and queue at KNH or Karen?

The plan didn't change. I understand they have already acquired land off Kangundo road on your way to Kayole (which is in Emba).


Construction along Kangundo for the KNH branch is well underway.
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emlyn ngwiri
#44 Posted : Thursday, September 30, 2010 10:04:05 AM
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@mukiha just wait a minute, why should someone contribute to pay med premium to a company, for oneself and family to get quality service while at hospital and then contribute to others who fall sick by increasing the amount payable? i belive that NHIF additional premium should be in such a way yhat beyond sh 500 contribution should be optional not mandatory.

if i feel i dont get quality service at kenyatta or any other hospital,i should choose for myself if i want to be philanthropic or not.
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Zakumi
#45 Posted : Thursday, September 30, 2010 10:08:18 AM
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bird_man wrote:
@Mukiha,interesting.You are the only one defending this punitive contributions.This means you know something that most of us might not know.Or perhaps some of us are ignorant as far as all these is concerned.

Question1:Why is the contribution mandatory?Why not make it optional so that those who prefer private health insurers contribute there?

Question2:NHIF has been implicated in many mega-scandals.From land to ICT software & equipment.Every big shot in fact has a contract with them for this and that.The reason that NHIF has not been able to adequately insure is not due to lack of funds but mismanagement & ineffective policies.What has changed?Why should i contribute more funds only to be misused?


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Anything in Kenya that starts with National and end with Fund,should be feared.Currently the NHIF system is not even efficient i know of members who have had to pay hospital bills by themselves and have never recieved refunds....and inside there the corruption is high tech. ive seen it first hand...let them give us an account of how they've used their money first.
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mukiha
#46 Posted : Thursday, September 30, 2010 1:25:32 PM
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Perhaps we need to ask what the alternative to NHIF would be. Is it a fully tax-funded scheme? That appears to be the general view in this discussion: "We pay taxes, therefore we deserve free medical care"

If that is the case; would you be willing to pay additional tax in order to pay for the additional expense in the health sector? If not, which sectors would you cut funding from in order to raise the money?
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dossy7
#47 Posted : Thursday, September 30, 2010 4:54:07 PM
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mukiha wrote:
Perhaps we need to ask what the alternative to NHIF would be. Is it a fully tax-funded scheme? That appears to be the general view in this discussion: "We pay taxes, therefore we deserve free medical care"

If that is the case; would you be willing to pay additional tax in order to pay for the additional expense in the health sector? If not, which sectors would you cut funding from in order to raise the money?

Mukiha no more additional pay because number one even if you go to this hospitals and they prescribe a drug you will always be refferred to some pharmacy outside the hospital and they say we dont have those drugs.
How sure are we that now they will stock the drugs?I smell corruption and a ploy for some people to raise campaign money for 2012
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holycow
#48 Posted : Friday, October 01, 2010 7:05:37 PM
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GetIT411:
COTU now obtains court order blocking the implementation of higher NHIF rates. Atwoli threatens strike action if directive is contravened.
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Shak
#49 Posted : Friday, October 01, 2010 8:23:50 PM
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Thank you. Atwoli for president
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bird_man
#50 Posted : Friday, October 01, 2010 8:38:20 PM
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That's the way to go.
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ngwono
#51 Posted : Friday, October 15, 2010 5:50:13 PM
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Thank God,brother Atwoli has gotten a plus on this
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