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Mike Sonko in confrontation in town
Apple Bees
#21 Posted : Monday, September 27, 2010 6:14:08 PM
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kadonye wrote:
I cant believe what I'm readin in this thread!I thought there was a general consensus in wazua that an MP is his money.Why shd Makadara people regret when the dude wil pay 4 them rent, start biz 4 them etc?

@kadonye...osa vinya!
MaichBlack
#22 Posted : Monday, September 27, 2010 6:20:24 PM
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selah wrote:
The biggest Q is what was The Dj doing with an 8yr old kid at 9.30 pm while going for a gig.This DJ should be investigated for child endangerment.

Are you serious? This happened to buruburu!!! How many estates are there between buruburu and Black Diamond [Westlands]? Be open minded. Maybe he was to drop her on his way there. There is no way an 8 year old [or 18 year old for that matter] can get into Black D.

I guess if it was a Kenyan who works 8 - 5 who was involved and he said that the incident happened on his way to work then he should be investigated if he had an 8yr old in the car and forgot to say "I was on my way to work, but before that I would have stopped at the ATM to withdraw some money, pass by the shops to buy my niece some books and pens, drop her at school and then ultimately end up at work!" Nini hii???
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MaichBlack
#23 Posted : Monday, September 27, 2010 6:29:21 PM
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Benzino wrote:
I weep for the people of Makadara. I listened to this Sonko Bugger trying to cobble up a coherent explanation as to what happened. The guy cannot even make up a lie to save himself!!! ati "hao wote walikuwa walevi" ..... including the 8yr old girl..... Seriously Sonko, man up and take responsibility.

And I guess the new constitution gives him the powers to rough up Kenyans who might be drunk. This Sonko fellow is one stupid S.O.B. If they were drunk, it means they were less of a threat to his security than if they were sober. It therefore follows that lesser force - if any - should have be used. Brari uji baridi. This is our country and any fool who thinks he can walk all over fellow Kenyans should be banished!!! Let him buy an island and make his own rules there - that is what people with real money do!!!
Never count on making a good sale. Have the purchase price be so attractive that even a mediocre sale gives good returns.
Elder
#24 Posted : Monday, September 27, 2010 6:59:53 PM
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MaichBlack wrote:
selah wrote:
The biggest Q is what was The Dj doing with an 8yr old kid at 9.30 pm while going for a gig.This DJ should be investigated for child endangerment.

Are you serious? This happened to buruburu!!! How many estates are there between buruburu and Black Diamond [Westlands]? Be open minded. Maybe he was to drop her on his way there. There is no way an 8 year old [or 18 year old for that matter] can get into Black D.

I guess if it was a Kenyan who works 8 - 5 who was involved and he said that the incident happened on his way to work then he should be investigated if he had an 8yr old in the car and forgot to say "I was on my way to work, but before that I would have stopped at the ATM to withdraw some money, pass by the shops to buy my niece some books and pens, drop her at school and then ultimately end up at work!" Nini hii???


From my understanding of Selah's post and which I also agreed with the important word there is INVESTIGATED. I-N-V-E-S-T-I-G-A-T-E-D. Did that just pass over you or because this is Buruburu there is no need to investigate?
He who can express in words the ardour of his love, has but little love to express. - Petrach, Son. (That men by various ways arrive at the same end. - Montaigne, The Essays of.)
MaichBlack
#25 Posted : Monday, September 27, 2010 7:11:58 PM
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@"Elder" - That is not the point here. Is being in a car with a kid at 9:30pm a crime/misdemeanour? What time is the curfew? If it is not a crime what the hell is being investigated. You seem to be okay with the art and science of formatting text but let me school you on matters legal. Investigations are done if and only if there is suspicion that crime was done or was in process of being done.

How a bunch of goons draw guns on innocent Kenyans and terrorize them and then we decide to "investigate" why the victims had their niece in the car at 9:30pm even before dealing with the goons is what I refer to as retrogressive thinking.

I have some shares at the NSE. Maybe you should have me investigated. Where did I get the money from? What will I use the money for when I sell the shares? etc. etc.
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McReggae
#26 Posted : Monday, September 27, 2010 7:17:11 PM
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Maichblack, copied!!!!..... you so damn right on this, the DJ cannot be investigated for having thd niece in the car at watever time of the night!!!
..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
Elder
#27 Posted : Monday, September 27, 2010 7:55:39 PM
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MaichBlack wrote:
@"Elder" - That is not the point here. Is being in a car with a kid at 9:30pm a crime/misdemeanour. What time is the curfew? If it is not a crime what the hell is being investigated. You seem to be okay with the art and science of formatting text but let me school you on matters legal. Investigations are done if and only if there is suspicion that crime was done or was in process of being done.


Ok Mr Wakili. In your taking me to legal school you only pick on one fact which is the fact of their being out with a child of 8 years at 9:30pm. What are the other facts?

That the DJ did not tell us that he was first dropping his niece home before heading to his gig. All he said is that he was heading to his gig.

That he seemingly 'obstructed' other road users by stopping to pick up passengers and thus putting not only the life of other road users in danger but also his niece. Now you can claim that he stopped at the stage as the DJ is obviously now stating but you have to remember that there are always two sides to the story. And the testimony of whoever is telling his side of the story is inherently unreliable.

That according to Sonko they were drunk. In as much as you may not want to believe Sonko he was there we were not and his statement should not just be discarded off-hand.

Now there is something called the Children Act or something like that and I believe one with some great understanding of the law and is seemingly qualified to school guys like me should know about. Please re-read it.

MaichBlack wrote:
How a bunch of goons draw guns on innocent Kenyans and terrorize them and then we decide to "investigate" why the victims had their niece in the car at 9:30pm even before dealing with the goons is what I refer to as retrogressive thinking.


Did anybody say that we first investigate the DJ before dealing with Sonko? And what do you mean by dealing with him? Don't you think he should be given the benefit of the doubt like all Kenyans and be INVESTIGATED FIRST? And who said if there is a likelihood of two parties committing a crime that you can't investigate both at the same time?

This formatting thing must be giving me some legal perspective I did not know I had.

MaichBlack wrote:
I have some shares at the NSE. Maybe you should have me investigated. Where did I get the money from? What will I use the money for when I sell the shares? etc. etc.


There are several bodies that may want to investigate where you get money to purchase your shares but not me. KRA and that Money Laundering Act that you great legal mind should know about swiftly come to mind. May I add that there will need to be certain circumstances to warrant that?

NOTE: My personal opinion of Sonko is that he is a clown. And a dangerous one at that.
He who can express in words the ardour of his love, has but little love to express. - Petrach, Son. (That men by various ways arrive at the same end. - Montaigne, The Essays of.)
poundfoolish
#28 Posted : Monday, September 27, 2010 8:24:39 PM
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i so love this forum....
KenyanLyrics
#29 Posted : Tuesday, September 28, 2010 12:37:29 AM
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What struck me in this whole case was the braveness of Sonko's security detail. They suspected a carjacking and their reaction was to get out of the car and deal with the suspects! Now THAT's real security!
Ondiek
#30 Posted : Tuesday, September 28, 2010 8:01:45 AM
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You only investigate when there is suspicion of a crime. So I beg to ask this question again what crime are we to investigate the DJ for?

I have seen reference to the Children Act. Please quote the relevant section and stop throwing names of statutes all over the place.

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