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De-listing safaricom
My 2 cents
#41 Posted : Thursday, September 23, 2010 10:48:31 AM
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mukiha wrote:
hisah wrote:
youcan'tstopusnow wrote:
mlennyma, 1. No one was cheated to take loans to buy Safaricom. Ni tamaa ya pesa nane. 2.Safaricom ikidelistiwa, Eveready itafanywa?


Is paka still listed... pun intended smile

Which pun is intended? There is no pun in your statement!

Absoluely none. I was also digging for the pun and found none.
mozenrat
#42 Posted : Thursday, September 23, 2010 4:24:39 PM
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Yenyewe hata mimi hiyo pun nimeitafuta!!
banianimbaya
#43 Posted : Thursday, September 23, 2010 5:16:25 PM
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Mystery deepens.Where's the pun?Tell us before this discussion takes a totally different direction
"Success is like pregnancy; people will congratulate you for getting it but won't know how many times you were screwed before getting it."
mlennyma
#44 Posted : Thursday, September 23, 2010 5:40:55 PM
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Ali khan satchu is always bullish on safcom even when its playing against him so for now i can become his friend and get some relieve
"Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
reiner
#45 Posted : Thursday, September 23, 2010 5:43:47 PM
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A pun is a play of words which can give totally new/different meanings. An example:

Wazua welcomes all MEMBERS, especially the new COMERS

Get it?

mlennyma
#46 Posted : Thursday, September 23, 2010 5:47:56 PM
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@mbanianimbaya what are you trying to say infront of your father,mother,brother,sister e.t.c?..keep some for yourself pls
"Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
youcan'tstopusnow
#47 Posted : Thursday, September 23, 2010 6:06:03 PM
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HAHA! Hiyo quote ya success is like pregnancy... ni kali! Signature of the year!
GOD BLESS YOUR LIFE
CapitalMarketsGeek
#48 Posted : Thursday, September 23, 2010 7:09:34 PM
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mukiha.....

"SCOM has NEVER sold shares to the public!!

Therefore SCOM cannot buy them back!!

GoK is the one you should be talking about...it was the one that sold shares during the IPO..

If that were to happen, the balance sheet of SCOM would not change an inch!![/quote]

MR MUKIHA..
It is Safaricom shares trading, its not GOK shares, get this right what is trading is Safcom equity however you wanna look at it.

Also Safcom did sold shares to the public to raise Capital, that capital was used to pay the GOK out of the company.

Therefore Safcom can buy back its shares but does it have money to do so? Probably not, why? strategically Safcom is a growing company, if Safcom decide to use all its retain earnings to buy back stocks, the company will have shift from its strategy at a crucial phase in the industrial cycle and could lead to lose of market share and profitability. Do you think Safcom wanted to go public? of course not, no company want to go public coz equity financing is more costly than debt financing. Did they have a choice? NO, the GOK wanted out, its owned 60% of equity and the 40% was owned by the parent company, so if the parent company had a debt:equity of 2:3, Safaricom before IPO had appx 16% of debt finance and needed additional 60% of debt to avoid IPO thats a total debt of 76%.... you see impossible no bank will offer you any loan with that debt: equity so the only option was IPO.
sparkly
#49 Posted : Thursday, September 23, 2010 8:34:28 PM
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@mr geek i dont quite get your drift coz all the sale proceeds of the ipo went to the treasury.
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#50 Posted : Thursday, September 23, 2010 8:57:03 PM
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What? Wazuans are still discussing this non-issue?
Get a life people... there are bigger things out there...
- KPLC announces superb results
- MoE capitulates to KK
- KQ's AGM
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