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I Just Hate Kenya!!!!!!!!!
jaribu
#1 Posted : Monday, October 19, 2009 12:47:00 PM
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can someone tell me anything good with Kenya or being Kenyan where people are sooo fake? everytime one hits the airport returning back here just feels completely depressed. i was going thru various kenyan news forums and everything is just tribal,negative,dull and boring. tanzanians are poorer than us but they are happier,easy going and more polite. as i look outside my office window,there's a long senseless jam and engines have been switched off as drivers wait for cops. for crying out loud,10 million people are starving,45 years after independence!!!!!! IDPs are still in camps while others are being clobbered by the police using tear gas and batons. most of us believe there will be a rwanda style genocide come 2012 elections. although elections are still far,actually 3 years away,opportunistic 'leaders' have started campaigning he he he. our justice system is a joke and takes 10 plus years and it's only for the rich. our police have continuously been voted the most corrupt in east and central africa for the last 5 years. what's wrong with us? eti najivunia kuwa mkenya? our politicians can't think beyond their noses,we actually have suspected killers of 2007 elections sitting in cabinet. now that's a first one in the world! i'm scartching my head hard but can't think of anything good with this country! or am i being obtuse???

OnLy deaD FiSh gO WiTh tHe floW....!
jaheim
#2 Posted : Monday, October 19, 2009 1:00:00 PM
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@jaribu
Do agree with you dude. Kenya has gone to the dogs! There are some things only happen in kenya,kenya has become a very peculiar country over time,and its peculiarity is also peculiar. Talk of tanzania,they are very polite people,i dont wanna go on,but even the attitude kenyans do have towards each other is also peculiar. At this rate,theres no way back,Cause the politicians in kenya are the ones shafting this country big time!! Politics is a way of life,it affects everything and everyone,but since its a mess things are becoming messier and messier,all we can do is sit and watch,i dont know where this nation is heading,its a pitty

Life is like an onion; you peel off one layer at a time and sometimes you weep. Carl Sandburg
selah
#3 Posted : Monday, October 19, 2009 1:11:00 PM
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get a life . then,if u hate kenya like that,why did you come back ?Dont look at the negative side only look at the positive side.

The only thing that messes this country is people like you who point fingers at others without doing anything about it. what have you done to alleviate the problem?

You are the Problem not them.


you can achive all things through Him(Jesus Christ)
'......to the acknowledgment of the mystery of God, and of the Father, and of Christ; 3 In whom are hid all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge.' Colossians 2:2-3
oteve
#4 Posted : Monday, October 19, 2009 1:15:00 PM
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Jaribu

If u hate kenya u shld have stayed utokako what is ur role in all this mess kama huna hama


Dignityis everything keep it intact
sokomjinga
#5 Posted : Monday, October 19, 2009 1:23:00 PM
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If you can hate your mother,then you can hate Kenya too.

All beginnings are difficult ..... ..... everything has an end,only a sausage has two.
Taunet Neelel ..... New Beginning .....
Brewer
#6 Posted : Monday, October 19, 2009 1:30:00 PM
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That is the political Kenya which we work at fixing every day and we do not lose hope. However,there are those who see Kenya only with political lenses,but Kenya is bigger and has its own beat beyond the politics. The hard work and enterprise of its people; the cultural expression in weddings,funerals,circumcision ceremonies etc as well as in houses of entertainment etc We live through all these sometimes without a care in the world about our politics. Our politics stinks. Our lives do not have to.
jaribu
#7 Posted : Monday, October 19, 2009 1:38:00 PM
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i can see i touched some few raw nerves but the truth always hurts. someone asked if you can hate your mother,of course you can hate her if she's full of evil and doesn't want to change. kenya should not be this way,we can do better. we were at par with asian tigers during independence. today,south korea,malaysia,thailand etc are light years ahead of us rocketing to the stratosphere economically,technologically and democratically. here in kenya,the mungikis are just busy skinning innocent people alive because they have refused to part with their hard earned cash. someone asked what am doing to make this country better. one i'm not living a lie like you. am acknowledging the many self inflicted misery we are wallowing in. i want a better kenya which my children will live peacefully in prosperity. am sorry we have taken the wrong turn and am just shouting so! don't shoot the messenger boy!

OnLy deaD FiSh gO WiTh tHe floW....!
Magigi
#8 Posted : Monday, October 19, 2009 1:47:00 PM
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...can't wait to come back... Kenya is such a lovely country. I can't see myself ever ever living outside Kenya..
Moibutu
#9 Posted : Monday, October 19, 2009 1:58:00 PM
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This is a defeatest attitude. So what do you suggest we do? Hang ourselves? Instead of wallowing in the world of self pity you should be giving sugggestions on what we can do to improve the situation. Behaving like a cry baby wont help.

Kenya is the sweetest country on earth.


die trying
FundamentAli
#10 Posted : Monday, October 19, 2009 2:05:00 PM
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Tribalism is the most distateful thing ever. It is our excuse for lack of order,impunity,corruption,political instability,food security,IDPs,insecurity,protection of leaders who are not fit to lead,etc,etc,etc.

Baada ya dhiki,faaraja
mtaalam
#11 Posted : Monday, October 19, 2009 2:21:00 PM
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If you are so ashamed of bieng Kenyan si you learn how to run and go to Qatar. You even get to change your Kenyan name to Shaheim Shakim Jaribu or something. If you cannot be part of the solution then you're part of the problem.

Bright and interesting people talk about ideas.
Those of average intelligence talk about things.
Stupid people talk about other people.
mv ufanisi
#12 Posted : Monday, October 19, 2009 2:37:00 PM
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There was once an ambitious farmer in Texas during the gold rush. He heard so many stories of people going to prospect for gold in California and given his ambition,decided that he too would do all it took to give himself a chance at striking gold.

So he sold all his land to his neighbor,packed all his valuables and took the journey to seek out his fortune. Unfortunately just as many fortune seekers found out,he worked hard all day but just found enough gold to keep him hopeful that he would strike it rich but never getting the results he hoped for.

Meanwhile all his savings were getting spent and within a few years he had lost all the money he had and still had nothing to show for it.

Five years later oil was discovered in the farmer's land by his neighbor.

Moral of the story: Before you go searching for gold far from home,first look around you,it might be that right underneath your land there are lots of precious minerals.

PS: I remember all those Africans risking their lives on the way to Europe trying to make a 'better' life.

Or right here in Kenya how Indians think of Kenya as the land of opportunity and even white Zimbabweans come here and find so many opportunities while our intelligent and educated Kenyans focus on trying to find employment and get frustrated tarmacking and never see that there is more to opportunity than getting a job.


@jaribu - I get your point though,it's like watching Usain Bolt run the 100m in 15 seconds when you know he could break the world record if only he just became serious and focused on the race. That is the agony of wasted potential that is Kenya.
BGL
#13 Posted : Monday, October 19, 2009 3:28:00 PM
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@ Jaribu

What you need is pyschiatry help to overcome depression which if unchecked is suicidal. Its also very common that people with suicidal talk or tendencies are also depressed. The two prime reasons that a person becomes depressed,are a loss of control,over their life situation and of their emotions,and secondly a loss of a positive sense of their future (loss of hope). Any therapy which is to be effective in reversing our depressed state,and the resultant suicidal urges,will have to help us regain control,and help us regain hope.

Being depressed causes us to narrow our view of the world around us to such an extent that reality becomes distorted. The negative in our lives is constantly reinforced and the positive around us is discounted as being irrelevant,or even non existent. Options to help solve our problems are rejected as having no merit,until it seems as if there is no possible solution.


Watch out!!!!! Kenya will overcome the current induced mess it is in. The big question is...where will you be?

History will not remember you for your IQ. It will remember you for what you did. “Genius is 1 percent inspiration, 99 percent perspiration.” Thomas Edison
Jay R
#14 Posted : Monday, October 19, 2009 3:40:00 PM
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I love being a Kenyan and i know for a fact,every Kenyan will be happier in Kenya than anywhere else. There is a lot of good in Kenya and with Kenyans. But as it is with every general rule,there are exceptions.
They remain as such,exceptions.
I can't hate being Kenyan,but i can hate being dark/black/African.

Our problems are not 'Kenyan',they are African.
I said in another post early this year.
Every race has to track itself through the learning curve. Looking back through history,all the other races amassed a lot of knowledge and character.

Prosperity and character cannot be attained in a 'day'. They need nurturing and that takes time.

Africans we have not learnt anything,this DOES NOT MEAN WE CANNOT LEARN,only that we need to realize we have a millenium-old mindset. In all the progressive races,clan/tribal wars were the order of the day hundreds/thousands of year ago,but they learnt all that they were doing was digging their own graves. They put all their energies in advancing their well-being.They sought to be engineers,doctors,architects,writers,economists,explorers etc. They did not choose to be 'contend' as someone said on another post here,alluding Africans were 'satisfied' with life and it's strappings.
A wise man never rests on his laurels. We couldn't have been smart and forget to have order,some working systems,try our hands in architecture,make some melodies,write a few books,try out engineering etc.
It was all slumber land.


When we can't talk of our history/heritage 700 years ago,then how can we compare ourselves with the Asian tigers?
It's a fact we were on the same economic footing in the 1960's,but what brought about the sameness? That's what every westerner leaves out,for convenience.
For us to take that at it's face value would be lying to ourselves.
The only reason we were on the same footing [economically] with S.Korea is that,they were emerging from the Korean war which had severely devastated their economy.
They had everything to do with prosperity & character,thousands of years before Vasco da Gama built Fort Jesus. They had their printing press years before the German guy was even born. They had systems [education,health,governance,military etc] thousand years ago. They made their rain gauge before the western world had one. They built the first battle ship in the world,they had the largest cargo ship 400 years before Columbus went on his voyage.
They had scientists,writers,scholars,blacksmiths,doctors etc thousands of years ago.
We can't compare with them even if we would wish to.

BUT [yeah,it's a big but] we need to learn and learn fast.

If we all become responsible,have humility,put our country first,reward efforts,hold our leaders responsible,stop the blame game,be willing to learn from those who have proved they know stuff,we will be on our way to prosperity sooner than later.
It will take time but we will get there.We should also bear in mind,when most of the Asian tigers were making all the giant leaps,democracy was not there to hinter their progress.

If you wake up late,you don't waste time complaining/pointing fingers,you do a lot and fast to catch up.
For all the years before the white man,Africans were sleeping.

But as i said,prosperity and character cannot be attained in a 'day'.

People,let's learn and be fast at it.

But first,

Love Kenya.

When i see my purple,you see it not.
when i see my purple, you see it not!
Waria
#15 Posted : Monday, October 19, 2009 4:28:00 PM
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Its stupid kenyans who live along the railway line that hate kenya. Waria napenda kenyaaaaa saana. Loveliest country onn earth i tell you.

As some one said indian immigrants consider kenya to be nirvana

@ jaribu kenya is not = Nairobi,

Who cares about tribalism.... they all look alike from where am sitted


Me first,U next
mdosi
#16 Posted : Monday, October 19, 2009 6:02:00 PM
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zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz............

Feel the fear but do it anyway.
It's amazing what you can achieve when you get rid of fear.
globeinterface
#17 Posted : Monday, October 19, 2009 10:14:00 PM
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A man called JFKennedy once said. ' Ask what you can do for your country and not what your country can do for you'.

All the ills you see is because you have not stepped in to contribute to the change you want. Every ody sits on the fence waiting for some one else to do the changes and thus the frustrations you are experiencing. Jump off the fence pay school fees for a kid or start a small business for a struggling family,ask your other friends on top of the fence to do the same and little by little Kenya will be out of the woods and you will LOVE it like a lot of other people do.

Ever heard of this story...It is the story of the regular Kenyan Mwananchi like you...

There were four brothers: Everyone,Someone,Anyone and Noone. They had a very important task to do. Everyone was sure that Someone will do it. Anyone could have done it,but Noone did it in the end. Someone was angry because it'd have been Everyone's job. Everyone thought that Anyone could have done it,but Noone realized that Noone will do it in the end. In the end,Everyone was angry at Someone because Noone did what Anyone could've done.




Chance favors the prepared mind.
VituVingiSana
#18 Posted : Monday, October 19, 2009 11:12:00 PM
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In Kenya 'Everyone,Someone and Anyone' who opposed the status quo would be killed or sent to oblivion... ask Pio Gama Pinto (first post-independence political assassination),then we had TM & JM... (among many others who are nameless) leaving 'No-one' standing to further true reforms...
*** moi continued with ouko... killed in a gruesome manner...
*** jomo the land grabber even derided Bildad Kaggia in public coz BK refused to 'eat... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bildad_Kaggia

Greedy when others are fearful,Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase WB
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
wangu.n
#19 Posted : Tuesday, October 20, 2009 1:30:00 AM
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Sentiments such as these aired so publicly and shamelessly leave a patriot cringing! Ever heard of the word patriot? I wont refute that the current state of our dear country isn't the best and that as a nation we are depicting a sick image,however all is not lost. However for u to shout at the top of ur lungs how u hate (key word) ur mother country yet ur doin nothing to alleviate it from its sore state is just embarrassing. I will not ask you to love kenya i would only propose that for every evil you see around u do a good deed to counteract it. Maybe th satisfaction u get knowing u have contributed something positive wil help turn ur attitude.. ps. Najivunia kuwa mkenya....

You have a right to your opinion.
Allow me mine!
Tokyo
#20 Posted : Tuesday, October 20, 2009 1:54:00 AM
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Jaribu- should I add more. Unless Kenyan change soon,Rwanda genocide will sound like a joke.but Kenyans are known to live in denial and trashing the truth.

Fact: an average African abroad is living a better life compared with an average African in Africa. Despite the massive resources we cant even feed ourself.


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