I don't agree with @TAZ on matters soccer but on this one, we belong together. Political arrogance has no place for me.

Kudo's to the Bishop. I differ with her on several fundamental issues but I am very happy that she won. Guys just hate her guts, and she has em in plenty!!!

To a woman!

@ TAZ....you must be one of the confused feloows here.....any facts that bishop uses church money for politics?

Are you aware that even pastors invest and that bishop has investments that give her returns other than church money??

If she has not helped watu mashinani...why was she re-elected??

I vote in starehe...and thus know what i am talking about!!

Tell me your MP....dare!

Domo kaya kama hii si poa....

Who told you church money....not her parliament salary ndio imetumika??? Wewe...ABK1

I am a church member...i tithe and give my offerings.....they way they are used is not my business....hiyo pastor atajibu siku ya mwisho....but you need to know that those who preach...live by the gospel....upende usipende....hiyo ni mungu alisema.

Njonjo pia alisema eti pesa yake haiwezi fanya campaign ya NO....the campaign didnt stop...

I STILL STAND BY MY OPINION THAT TAZ et al....you have a personal problem!!

Kweli kizungu ni ngumu. "..to a man" refers to the voters [as per the statement]. Now, how many female mechanics do you know at grogan??? Na unaweka red, bold, font size 'thate'...

Bishop just did her political arithmetic well: ODM votes + Church followers(mostly women) + Maina Njenga + Her Charisma & a Peoples person + the tribal vote(read kikuyu) that they shared with Kamanda..

Congrats Mama, Bishop , Dr, MP Elect, Hon, To be Ass.Minister, Wanjiru Kariuki-Kamangu

Where did she get the money she invested? Everything she has is 100% sadaka and its derivatives. Unless of course you want to tell us she invested her house girl salary which miraculously multiplied!!! I have no problems with a rich pastor. The question is where the money came from. If you are dirt poor, have no marketable skills or experience, then you start a church or ministry and all over sudden you are richer than members of the congregation... pesa imetoka wapi - And you don't even have a side hustle unconnected to the church. If you were already rich when you started your church, why should your money bother me?



The gullibility of Kenyans - even the 'educated' ones - perplexes me!!! You want to tell me if I started a church you'd just come and give your 10% regardless of how I use the money? Where in the bible does it say church 'leaders' should not be questioned? Especially the ones who start a church make themselves pastor, apostle, prophet, reverend bla bla bla. The wife is the women leader cum choir leader, the son the treasurer cum youth leader etc. etc. If you decide to give 10% to God make sure it goes to God or his work. It seems your main problem is not to keep the 10% than give it to God.

@maichblack et al......don’t get mixed up brother…I wonder whether you belong to a church…and whether you give your offerings and whether you tithe…and if you do…..do you know how each and every cent is spend???

Trying to figure out this makes you more of a fool than wise…..no offend intended….what I am saying is; I read the bible and I understand it……so trying to always question how money is used in the church bla bla bla is not my business.

Mine is to obey biblical principles…period!

There is no issue of gullibility here my friend….those of us who go to church have a reason as to why we belong to a certain church and not another…...

first I believe in the man or woman to who I commit myself as my pastor….

wewe fungua church uone kama nitakuja!!! ……Siwezi!

Just like a young baby matures….so is spiritual maturity!

I don’t dispute that fact that there are those who use the gospel for their own gain…there are there ….and Margret is not one of them!!

The same people who complain about pastors getting rich also complain that pastors are poor….unlearned…..confused people…….but I think by now most people have been proven wrong…..well this is for another topic!

In simple words…no matter how learned one is….you can never bee sooo learned to be disobedient to God!

You as a church member cannot demand to be an accountant so as to tithe or give…..utapotea vibaya!

Not all pastors are money driven…..but THE TRUTH IS THOSE WHO PREACH LIVE BY THE GOSPEL!

Whether people believe or not on what the bible says about giving and offering …..the truth remains…God has the final word…obeying or disobeying is one’s choice.

If you don’t belong to a church / if you are not born again…it is impossible for you to understand spiritual things…

There is a difference between a church and a religion.

Each individual Christian has an account to give to God on the last day…..for each action…whether a pastor or a church member….

Anything else…ni porojo!

I hope I have answered you and others as well.

raszag - yours is one of the few insightful comments on this thread.

@poundfoolish......a nice point having hit the nail on the head....therefore from your contributions here....I RECOMMEND YOU CHANGE YOU NAME TO.......POUNDWISE!!