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KPLC FINALLY EXPLODES
mwenza
#81 Posted : Tuesday, September 21, 2010 12:33:10 PM
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Latest update.......At 10.45a.m today this bus is unrelenting as it cruises at 260/= and the supply at low fares has dried out.
IF YOU EXPECT ME TO POST ANYTHING POSITIVE ABOUT ASENO, YOU MAY AS WELL SIT ON A PIN
mlennyma
#82 Posted : Tuesday, September 21, 2010 12:54:32 PM
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All that goes up comes down even jesus christ is preparing to come down.
"Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
2012
#83 Posted : Tuesday, September 21, 2010 1:02:58 PM
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Today looks like an overreaction to the strike call-off. I hope I'm wrong but nothing else makes more sense at the moment.

BBI will solve it
:)
mwenza
#84 Posted : Tuesday, September 21, 2010 1:37:34 PM
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mlennyma wrote:
All that goes up comes down even jesus christ is preparing to come down.


Its still not too late to board the bus.
IF YOU EXPECT ME TO POST ANYTHING POSITIVE ABOUT ASENO, YOU MAY AS WELL SIT ON A PIN
guru267
#85 Posted : Tuesday, September 21, 2010 2:32:25 PM
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mlennyma wrote:
All that goes up comes down even jesus christ is preparing to come down.

You guys stop HATING!!

See I've told you results have leaked so you better get on while you can...
Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
the deal
#86 Posted : Tuesday, September 21, 2010 10:03:09 PM
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I'm still looking for 300 bob for my shares...i'm sure there will be willing buyers at that price....LOL...
guru267
#87 Posted : Wednesday, September 22, 2010 9:52:27 AM
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There is a HUGE resistance for KPLC at 250bob....

I highly doubt it will close higher today but lets wait and see....
Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
VituVingiSana
#88 Posted : Wednesday, September 22, 2010 10:45:34 AM
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Leo... kesho... kesho kutwa... I see good things for KPLC...
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
obiero
#89 Posted : Saturday, November 25, 2023 10:33:48 PM
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mwenza wrote:
Latest update.......At 10.45a.m today this bus is unrelenting as it cruises at 260/= and the supply at low fares has dried out.

You can't make this stuff up

HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
My 2 cents
#90 Posted : Sunday, November 26, 2023 5:59:38 PM
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obiero wrote:
mwenza wrote:
Latest update.......At 10.45a.m today this bus is unrelenting as it cruises at 260/= and the supply at low fares has dried out.

You can't make this stuff up


KPLC had a 8 for 1 split in 2010. Adjust your 'shock' accordingly.
obiero
#91 Posted : Sunday, November 26, 2023 8:51:42 PM
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My 2 cents wrote:
obiero wrote:
mwenza wrote:
Latest update.......At 10.45a.m today this bus is unrelenting as it cruises at 260/= and the supply at low fares has dried out.

You can't make this stuff up


KPLC had a 8 for 1 split in 2010. Adjust your 'shock' accordingly.

Hehe. Your assumption is that I started trading this year? So post-split it immediately went down to KES 1.45?

HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
VituVingiSana
#92 Posted : Monday, November 27, 2023 9:30:59 AM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
Leo... kesho... kesho kutwa... I see good things for KPLC...

The NSE has taught me things.
I am less "sure" compared to the past.

For any "forecast" one has to add caveats, time limits, ceteris pairs, etc.
For GoK firms add more layers of skepticism.

From 2010 to 2023, I do not think any GoK controlled firms has beat the NSE Index or bonds.

A 13 year IFB bought in Jan 2010 has handily beaten any investment in a listed GoK controlled firm by many miles.

KPLC
KenGen
Kenya Re
EAPCC

Perhaps even KCB

Then we have KQ, Mumias, Uchumi, etc which are/were heavily influenced by GoK

Safaricom survived thanks to Vodafone's control on who was the chairman, CEO, CFO and CTO for a long while. MJ and BC came from Vodafone. The current CFO is also from Vodafone.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
obiero
#93 Posted : Monday, November 27, 2023 3:48:23 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Leo... kesho... kesho kutwa... I see good things for KPLC...

The NSE has taught me things.
I am less "sure" compared to the past.

For any "forecast" one has to add caveats, time limits, ceteris pairs, etc.
For GoK firms add more layers of skepticism.

From 2010 to 2023, I do not think any GoK controlled firms has beat the NSE Index or bonds.

A 13 year IFB bought in Jan 2010 has handily beaten any investment in a listed GoK controlled firm by many miles.

KPLC
KenGen
Kenya Re
EAPCC

Perhaps even KCB

Then we have KQ, Mumias, Uchumi, etc which are/were heavily influenced by GoK

Safaricom survived thanks to Vodafone's control on who was the chairman, CEO, CFO and CTO for a long while. MJ and BC came from Vodafone. The current CFO is also from Vodafone.

Aki my elder you have really matured. The stock exchange can humble anyone

HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
My 2 cents
#94 Posted : Monday, November 27, 2023 7:38:40 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Leo... kesho... kesho kutwa... I see good things for KPLC...

The NSE has taught me things.
I am less "sure" compared to the past.

For any "forecast" one has to add caveats, time limits, ceteris pairs, etc.
For GoK firms add more layers of skepticism.

From 2010 to 2023, I do not think any GoK controlled firms has beat the NSE Index or bonds.

A 13 year IFB bought in Jan 2010 has handily beaten any investment in a listed GoK controlled firm by many miles.

KPLC
KenGen
Kenya Re
EAPCC

Perhaps even KCB

Then we have KQ, Mumias, Uchumi, etc which are/were heavily influenced by GoK

Safaricom survived thanks to Vodafone's control on who was the chairman, CEO, CFO and CTO for a long while. MJ and BC came from Vodafone. The current CFO is also from Vodafone.


Here is some data to ponder. The first figure is market cap (M) then, the second figure is market cap today. I use market cap rather than share price to have a true picture sans rights issues, slits, bonus issues etc.

The % figure is the annual compound rate.

(This does not include dividends)

KenGen 31/12/2008 34,844
27/11/2023 14,361
-5.8%

Scangroup 31/12/2008 5,738
27/11/2023 964
-11.3%

Kenya-Re 31/12/2008 7,650
27/11/2023 4,872
-3.0%

Safaricom 01/06/2008 200,000
27/11/2023 538,000
6.6%

Britam 01/07/2011 17,023
27/11/2023 12,668
-2.4%

NSE 31/12/2014 3,990
27/11/2023 1,489
-10.5%

Equity 31/12/2008 65.00
27/11/2023 140.00
5.3%


Eveready 31/12/2008 735.00
27/11/2023 275.10
-6.4%


Deacons 02/08/2016 15.00
27/11/2023 0.00
-97.8%


Coop 02/11/2008 38.55
27/11/2023 67.18
3.8%


DTB 31/12/2008 11.17
27/11/2023 12.57
0.8%


ABSA 31/12/2008 68,573
27/11/2023 62,734
-0.6%


STANCHART 31/12/2008 43,515
27/11/2023 59,984
2.2%


KCB 31/12/2008 52,118
27/11/2023 63,305
1.3%


BAMBURI 31/12/2008 59,888
27/11/2023 12,613
-9.9%


NATION 31/12/2008 20,536
27/11/2023 3,806
-10.7%


KPLC 31/12/2008 10,761
27/11/2023 2,730
-8.8%


STANBIC 31/12/2008 16,421
27/11/2023 43,485
6.7%


EABL 31/12/2008 113,872
27/11/2023 90,346
-1.5%

VituVingiSana
#95 Posted : Monday, November 27, 2023 7:57:16 PM
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Joined: 1/3/2007
Posts: 18,097
Location: Nairobi
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Leo... kesho... kesho kutwa... I see good things for KPLC...

The NSE has taught me things.
I am less "sure" compared to the past.

For any "forecast" one has to add caveats, time limits, ceteris pairs, etc.
For GoK firms add more layers of skepticism.

From 2010 to 2023, I do not think any GoK controlled firms has beat the NSE Index or bonds.

A 13 year IFB bought in Jan 2010 has handily beaten any investment in a listed GoK controlled firm by many miles.

KPLC
KenGen
Kenya Re
EAPCC

Perhaps even KCB

Then we have KQ, Mumias, Uchumi, etc which are/were heavily influenced by GoK

Safaricom survived thanks to Vodafone's control on who was the chairman, CEO, CFO and CTO for a long while. MJ and BC came from Vodafone. The current CFO is also from Vodafone.

Aki my elder you have really matured. The stock exchange can humble anyone
It did not humble me.

Instead...
It first kicked me in the nuts.
Then stomped on them.
Put them in a nutcracker and squeezed them
Chewed them and spat them out!

Sad d'oh!
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
Ericsson
#96 Posted : Monday, January 01, 2024 10:07:51 AM
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Joined: 12/4/2009
Posts: 10,678
Location: NAIROBI
My 2 cents wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Leo... kesho... kesho kutwa... I see good things for KPLC...

The NSE has taught me things.
I am less "sure" compared to the past.

For any "forecast" one has to add caveats, time limits, ceteris pairs, etc.
For GoK firms add more layers of skepticism.

From 2010 to 2023, I do not think any GoK controlled firms has beat the NSE Index or bonds.

A 13 year IFB bought in Jan 2010 has handily beaten any investment in a listed GoK controlled firm by many miles.

KPLC
KenGen
Kenya Re
EAPCC

Perhaps even KCB

Then we have KQ, Mumias, Uchumi, etc which are/were heavily influenced by GoK

Safaricom survived thanks to Vodafone's control on who was the chairman, CEO, CFO and CTO for a long while. MJ and BC came from Vodafone. The current CFO is also from Vodafone.


Here is some data to ponder. The first figure is market cap (M) then, the second figure is market cap today. I use market cap rather than share price to have a true picture sans rights issues, slits, bonus issues etc.

The % figure is the annual compound rate.

(This does not include dividends)

KenGen 31/12/2008 34,844
27/11/2023 14,361
-5.8%

Scangroup 31/12/2008 5,738
27/11/2023 964
-11.3%

Kenya-Re 31/12/2008 7,650
27/11/2023 4,872
-3.0%

Safaricom 01/06/2008 200,000
27/11/2023 538,000
6.6%

Britam 01/07/2011 17,023
27/11/2023 12,668
-2.4%

NSE 31/12/2014 3,990
27/11/2023 1,489
-10.5%

Equity 31/12/2008 65.00
27/11/2023 140.00
5.3%


Eveready 31/12/2008 735.00
27/11/2023 275.10
-6.4%


Deacons 02/08/2016 15.00
27/11/2023 0.00
-97.8%


Coop 02/11/2008 38.55
27/11/2023 67.18
3.8%


DTB 31/12/2008 11.17
27/11/2023 12.57
0.8%


ABSA 31/12/2008 68,573
27/11/2023 62,734
-0.6%


STANCHART 31/12/2008 43,515
27/11/2023 59,984
2.2%


KCB 31/12/2008 52,118
27/11/2023 63,305
1.3%


BAMBURI 31/12/2008 59,888
27/11/2023 12,613
-9.9%


NATION 31/12/2008 20,536
27/11/2023 3,806
-10.7%


KPLC 31/12/2008 10,761
27/11/2023 2,730
-8.8%


STANBIC 31/12/2008 16,421
27/11/2023 43,485
6.7%


EABL 31/12/2008 113,872
27/11/2023 90,346
-1.5%




Good analysis
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