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youcan'tstopusnow		#141 Posted : Sunday, September 19, 2010 3:47:39 PM
Rank: Chief Joined: 3/24/2010 Posts: 6,779 Location: Black Africa		PKoli, true. But I feel other counters will easily outperform KQ by years end e.g kcb, kplc, nic. Just my opinion GOD BLESS YOUR LIFE
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Horton		#142 Posted : Monday, September 20, 2010 9:08:05 AM
Rank: Veteran Joined: 8/30/2007 Posts: 1,558 Location: Nairobi		VituVingiSana wrote: @you*** @ricdees HK's new airport is built into the sea [aka on reclaimed land] which is NOT possible at Wilson airport UNLESS the 'reclaimed land' is from the land-grabbers! Also I think some crooks are targeting Wilson Airport [then Nairobi National Park]... The problem at Wilson is there is NO more land to expand the runway [needed for larger planes]... Nevertheless, I agree that Wilson airport should be expanded for the smaller planes [the various Cessnas, Pipers, etc] so as not to congest JKIA... Cessnas, Pipers have never been the problem at Jomo....its parking for the big boys....nevertheless, lots of wilson operators use Orly...just south of jomo(10NM) to avoid the congestion and landing fees
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Horton		#143 Posted : Monday, September 20, 2010 9:15:50 AM
Rank: Veteran Joined: 8/30/2007 Posts: 1,558 Location: Nairobi		youcan'tstopusnow wrote: S.A.A has a fleet of 50 and orders of 26 more. The average age of the fleet is 8.6 years. (Wikipedia) Ethiopian Airlines has 41 operating fleet and 50 on order. It also has the youngest fleet. www.ethiopianairlines.com/en/corporate/fleet.aspx SAA, dont really make money....its a hit or miss thing with them. ET, is the only one giving KQ a run for its money... However the claim that "they have the youngest fleet in africa" is a myth. The B757/767 and the fokkers are ancient....that should bring the averages down. As for 540, anyone notice how the ATRs have quietly disappeared ?? its only 1 Dash 8 and a CRJ flying at the moment....
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VituVingiSana		#144 Posted : Monday, September 20, 2010 11:19:41 AM
Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,362 Location: Nairobi		@Horton - Fly 540 was in the news recently about some leasing payments not made... The planes were almost re-possessed by the Lessors! Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - *to paraphrase Warren Buffett*
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Cicero		#145 Posted : Monday, September 20, 2010 4:26:53 PM
Rank: Member Joined: 7/7/2009 Posts: 111		Someone asked how many of our 27KQ planes are leased and the question was not answered. Does anyone know? I only know that the two Ambraer 170 jets which were delivered in June and are in service and the two Ambraer 190's which will be delivered in december are all leases. BUT on the buying front there is the delayed order of Boeing Dreamliners which could have been the best thing to ever happen to KQ but TN threatened to cansell the order. Does anyone know if the Dreamliner order was canselled and if so what benefit there would be to replace that with Airbuses. My personal opinion would be that none of this two plane manufacturing giants ever deliver anything in time and if there is a promise to deliver the dreamliners anytime next time that KQ should stick to Boeing. Lastly, is there hope (+need) that KQ will ever buy a Airbus 380? Don't gamble; take all your savings and buy some good stock and hold it till it goes up, then sell it. If it don't go up, don't buy it...
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PKoli		#146 Posted : Monday, September 20, 2010 4:44:07 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 2/10/2007 Posts: 1,587		youcan'tstopusnow wrote: PKoli, true. But I feel other counters will easily outperform KQ by years end e.g kcb, kplc, nic. Just my opinion I will add DTB
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Gordon Gekko		#147 Posted : Monday, September 20, 2010 5:25:26 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 5/27/2008 Posts: 3,760		@cicero, A380 is a nice kite to have, but which route will it serve? If you buy only one, you tie up a whole set of crew (and their relievers) to that type, hardly good value considering a 777 captain today makes Ksh 1.4M and an A380 one will cost more. Besides, those goons at KAA will never get round to configuring the airport for the type, considering they cant even build a second runway. Another problem for the A380 is it needs an alternative airport to land in, in the event that a reconfigured JKIA is closed for any reason - would they detour to Oliver Tambo (an extra 4 hours of fuel) having initially loaded 8 hours of fuel from say Amsterdam?
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VituVingiSana		#148 Posted : Monday, September 20, 2010 8:02:01 PM
Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,362 Location: Nairobi		@cicero - The delays in the 787s has been costly to KQ in terms of 1) Lost opportunities due to lack of seats or even flights 2) The 787s are expected to be fuel efficient vs 767s 3) Newer planes have better technology & we need better IFE to fight the European carriers like BA & VA. Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - *to paraphrase Warren Buffett*
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VituVingiSana		#149 Posted : Monday, September 20, 2010 8:05:13 PM
Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,362 Location: Nairobi		As for Owned vs Lease... I do not know but I am sure the info in on the web somewhere... Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - *to paraphrase Warren Buffett*
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Horton		#150 Posted : Monday, September 20, 2010 8:18:27 PM
Rank: Veteran Joined: 8/30/2007 Posts: 1,558 Location: Nairobi		VituVingiSana wrote: As for Owned vs Lease... I do not know but I am sure the info in on the web somewhere... ok...all the B733s(ie 6 of them) are KQ owned and the 4 B772s. They are leased from different companies...from SALE(singapore aircraft leasing ent), GECAS(arm of GE)
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