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KQ in 2010-11 (Boom, Bust or Blah)
sparkly
#131 Posted : Thursday, September 16, 2010 2:27:11 PM
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@vvs What is the size of kq's fleet? These days they are all over jkia, hardly any emirates, ethiopian, BA to be seen.
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VituVingiSana
#132 Posted : Thursday, September 16, 2010 3:02:00 PM
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sparkly wrote:
@vvs What is the size of kq's fleet? These days they are all over jkia, hardly any emirates, ethiopian, BA to be seen.
27 planes but KQ expects 2 more 737-800s by year-end...
ET is larger...
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mlennyma
#133 Posted : Thursday, September 16, 2010 3:16:11 PM
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Alot of optimism but the share is not interested.
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youcan'tstopusnow
#134 Posted : Saturday, September 18, 2010 8:54:09 PM
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KQ becomes 2nd airline in Africa to adopt new cargo system. www.nation.co.ke/busines...6/-/8ip5vrz/-/index.html
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PKoli
#135 Posted : Sunday, September 19, 2010 2:19:29 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
sparkly wrote:
@vvs What is the size of kq's fleet? These days they are all over jkia, hardly any emirates, ethiopian, BA to be seen.
27 planes but KQ expects 2 more 737-800s by year-end...
ET is larger...


Is that inclusive of the leased planes. I have noted they have a number of KLM leased planes in blue colour!
Horton
#136 Posted : Sunday, September 19, 2010 2:51:38 PM
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5*erj-170(72 seaters)
5*B733(116 seaters) 1 more on the way
4 B737(116 seaters)
5 B738(145 seaters)
7 B763 (232 seaters...variable due to seating config)
4 B772 (324 seaters) 3 STD versions on their way. What they have now is ER ext range

B737 are the best utilized in Africa. Despite the fact that kq has less ndeges than et, they have better utilization of crew n planes.
Someone here mentioned that Kq is getting more B738(737-800) not to my knowledge. I do know they r getting a bunch of ERJ190s which are 100 seaters
PKoli
#137 Posted : Sunday, September 19, 2010 2:58:05 PM
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Horton wrote:
5*erj-170(72 seaters)
5*B733(116 seaters) 1 more on the way
4 B737(116 seaters)
5 B738(145 seaters)
7 B763 (232 seaters...variable due to seating config)
4 B772 (324 seaters) 3 STD versions on their way. What they have now is ER ext range

B737 are the best utilized in Africa. Despite the fact that kq has less ndeges than et, they have better utilization of crew n planes.
Someone here mentioned that Kq is getting more B738(737-800) not to my knowledge. I do know they r getting a bunch of ERJ190s which are 100 seaters


@Horton

Thanks for info. Looks KQ still have room for growth. In my mind I thought they had over 50 planes!
Horton
#138 Posted : Sunday, September 19, 2010 3:21:00 PM
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PKoli wrote:
Horton wrote:
5*erj-170(72 seaters)
5*B733(116 seaters) 1 more on the way
4 B737(116 seaters)
5 B738(145 seaters)
7 B763 (232 seaters...variable due to seating config)
4 B772 (324 seaters) 3 STD versions on their way. What they have now is ER ext range

B737 are the best utilized in Africa. Despite the fact that kq has less ndeges than et, they have better utilization of crew n planes.
Someone here mentioned that Kq is getting more B738(737-800) not to my knowledge. I do know they r getting a bunch of ERJ190s which are 100 seaters


@Horton

Thanks for info. Looks KQ still have room for growth. In my mind I thought they had over 50 planes!



Here is more for you.

The commercial director was a Hugh Fraser. Who is now at air uganda. His time at Kq was a time that was completely stagnant, no growth etc etc. I was actually glad to see him go.....they now have Mohan Chandra, ex Emirates, who was in the midst of their growth and now implementing route expansion at Kq. He is much better, than the previous jamaa.

Btw, the delays of late with kq has the following explanations...
1. No parking spots at jomo
2. Serious expansion, and these delays are quite normal for an airline
3. Serious shortage of "qualified Captains" this is a worldwide phenomenon especially on the B737/767. It takes about 10 years to train a commercial pilot to airline captains(from Wilson ie GA) ET have actually made these chaps a "national asset" as the demand worldwide is extremely high and opportunities keep opening for "qualified pilots ESP captains.
PKoli
#139 Posted : Sunday, September 19, 2010 3:30:08 PM
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@Horton

Many thanks. It looks KQ will easily be trading at KES 70 or thereabouts given the expansion programs they have. Currently trading at 45, one can easily make some 20% gain before end year.
youcan'tstopusnow
#140 Posted : Sunday, September 19, 2010 3:45:54 PM
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S.A.A has a fleet of 50 and orders of 26 more. The average age of the fleet is 8.6 years. (Wikipedia) Ethiopian Airlines has 41 operating fleet and 50 on order. It also has the youngest fleet. www.ethiopianairlines.com/en/corporate/fleet.aspx
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