And why will it fail to remit? I don't see that scenario occurring because there will be a big enough surplus from the wealthy counties to take care of the deficits of poor counties.

You raise a very valid point @masukuma. Just how much control will counties have over their ability to raise revenue. Right now the discussion is about distributing money that they are allocated from the national kitty but is this really devolution?

What about people deciding how they can increase their revenue? As an example, can Nakuru county enter into an agreement with a multinational company to exploit the geothermal power in Menengai crater. Can it borrow money? Can Kakamega county put up a bullfighting arena? Can Busia county pass laws to allow it to exploit its natural resource of good Canabis? Can Mombasa county pass laws to allow for a red light district?

One of the reason why there was so many water Melons, is because of the way this new Katiba is ambiguous.

What will happen to the County and Municipal councils?. Especially when it comes to some councils which are now in different counties but previously in the same district. EG. Gatanga was previously in Thika County council, meaning all Land rates and rents were paid in thika by gatanga residents. But now Gatanga is in Murang'a County and Thika is in Kiambu.

Will there be councillors and Mayors?. There is no mention of these posts in the katiba.

Provincial Administration is another confusion in itself. If the Governor will not be incharge fully incharge of the county, then there is going to be alot of problems in running the county affairs.

Come September 2012, Kenya will be a confused state.

@All....i am forced to reply to this by my conscience even though sitaki...the reason is ....you cant inscribe by force common sense to people given over to euphoria .... This issue of xpense to run the gava is real ...no sweet talk about it!!!

Taxation ni lazima; kwanza heavy taxes....both the national and county gava have powers to levy taxes ili kuji support...this means if you are working in nai na unatoka kakamega ama nakuru and you have some invest......hizo lazima kuna tax in both levels.....

Kusema corruption itaisha coz ya katiba mpya ...ole wenu....this people are the same......character ni ile ile...unless you do an overhaul....but in kenya hiyo

Ukweli ni kwamba the ka - small bad % of the katiba that we refused to listen to and debate about...ndio itarudi kutukula vikali...

Wait and see!

Parklands police station traffic department is the most corrupt in kenya....discuss...

Wazua did not come with any extra cost. They (wazua) own the idea so they can do whatever they want with wazua.
How many Senators, Governors and MP's are we going to have in 2012?

@2012....tafadhali fungua macho kiasi.

At what cost is the free pry edu?

Are you aware that the west is funding this thing???

Note that hakuna pesa kutoka west ama uk ama us ambazo ni za free.

They come in terms of soft loans....of course hizi loans zinafanya shingo zetu zifungwe tupate kuimba nyimbo za the west....i.e doing things their way...ama tukikataa ''msaada itakwama''....hii ni pumbavu kilo nyingi!

You guys esp sisi africans lazima tuamke...sijui kwa nini kenyans believed in this katiba thing mpaka there was no sense....

The west new ...tusukume hawa majamaa wapitishe hii kitu.....the gava will be bloat...hawataweza kuimudu....then tutasema...tutawasaidia....of course thru cash....loans....sawa...

I think you have heard or seen some gus talking of 800m from u.s eti ya ku - implement katiba...

shida ni ..people refuse to think 4 themselves sasa others think for them...

Are u aware that the kenya debt is > 1 trillion???

Ilitoka wapi kufanya nini na nani watalipa???

Jibu....ilitoka west na kwingineko...kuendesha masilahi ya west hapa kwetu halafu mimi na wewe tutalipa thru taxation....

mimi nilipiga NOO......ukweli ni kwamba this is the reality.....talk of ukoloni mambo leo....i say we are still clonized!!!

Ngojeni ....msilie haraka....mambo bado!!


To answer your question....msiba wa kujitakia hauhitaji kilio!!!

@mjuaji wa stocks,
My friend, I'm not disagreeing with you in fact I agree with you totally.
What I'm saying is 'maji yashamwagika'. Kenyans overwhelmingly endorsed this constitution majority ignorance of the cost. My question to you is,
1) if we were to do it all over again, what would you change and would it pass?
2) Since this is now cast in stone how would you suggest we do this? Stagger implementation?

My thinking is we bite the bullet and take it head on because if we don't do it all at once then most of it will end up on that popular Kenyan dusty shelf.