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faa
#1 Posted : Monday, August 10, 2009 8:00:00 AM
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Some times i wonder of people know about Opus dei.

yayo
smano
#2 Posted : Monday, August 10, 2009 8:19:00 AM
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Maybe you could start by telling us what you know...

smano
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willin2learn
#3 Posted : Monday, August 10, 2009 9:16:00 AM
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@ Faa...hiyo Upus ndio nini?
Fundaah
#4 Posted : Monday, August 10, 2009 9:18:00 AM
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thank God there is internet

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opus_Dei


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Euge
#5 Posted : Monday, August 10, 2009 9:47:00 AM
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@ Faa - I know them,they run the schools which my children go to. And they are doing a great job!
Lord, thank you!
susie
#6 Posted : Monday, August 10, 2009 1:17:00 PM
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@Euge

Share with us please about them and which school they are going so that ours be also be shaped
Euge
#7 Posted : Monday, August 10, 2009 1:37:00 PM
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@ Susie,Kianda (girls primary and secondary) . They also run Strathmore school.They look at a childs all round development (character,spirituality and academic) making their education a cut above the rest.
Lord, thank you!
sheri
#8 Posted : Monday, August 10, 2009 2:37:00 PM
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The catholic church is made of many congregations such as the assumptions,apostles of Jesus,queen of apostles,Opus Dei and many others . Opus Dei is one of the strictest congregation in the catholic faith. It runs schools and institutions of higher learning and Strathmore is one such institutions. To say the least you can recognise Opus Dei priest bcoz they are the only ones who adheres to their dress code of black suits and a white collar. They believe in high morals that why strathmore has been adhering to the dress code as long as I can remember.

I hope that helps.


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Brewer
#9 Posted : Monday, August 10, 2009 4:04:00 PM
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I assume anyone who has gone through the two schools would know about Opus dei.There should be a strathmore and kianda old boy/girl in SK. If not,there is either something wrong with the schools or with SK.
Kusadikika
#10 Posted : Monday, August 10, 2009 11:48:00 PM
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The basic idea behind Opus Dei is this: If you were to read up all the words in the bible that Jesus spoke,you would be finished in about 3 hours or less yet Jesus lived for about 33 years. During all this time he was still Jesus but when he was not speaking he was doing other things as well as speaking very many things that are not written in the bible. So the Opus Dei guys ask the question,'If Jesus was doing what I do,how would he do it?' So their ministry is their work and lives. There are some clergy among them but most are lay people,some who have dedicated themselves wholly to the ministry by taking the vow of celibacy while some are married. Generally they are very professional,very strict and have uncompromisingly high moral standards....like Mukiha. Well I don't know Mukiha nor do I know whether he is an Opus Dei or not but his posts and thoughts on most issues would be in line with the teachings of Opus Dei.

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Jacy26
#11 Posted : Tuesday, August 11, 2009 5:26:00 AM
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They teach that whatever it is you are called to do,do it as unto God. Do your work perfectly not to please your boss but to please God.

I will praise thee,O Lord my God,with all my heart: And I will glorify thy name forever more. Psalms 86:12
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Pablo
#12 Posted : Tuesday, August 11, 2009 5:49:00 AM
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My only issue with them.... they smoke and booze like hell. I was in the old strath college in Lavi and some of the lecturers we crazy chain smokers even in the collars.

Something else,for all round growth i dont know if kids (4 - 12yrs) should be separated ati boys kando and girls kando. In Strath there are no females not even teachers right from Nursery to Highschool.

Ever seen male nursery school teachers,yenyewe they must be gifted to baby sit and change dipers.


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willin2learn
#13 Posted : Tuesday, August 11, 2009 7:33:00 AM
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@All,

Now that is educative. I had not known all this. My only question; how come there are so many 'sects' within the Catholic faith?


bebeto
#14 Posted : Tuesday, August 11, 2009 7:50:00 AM
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@willing,

these are not 'sects'. they are simply groups with different missions/objectives geared towards serving the same christ and none contradicts the other in word or deed....people are different,and hence serve the lord thru different deeds and works of charity.....u join the one u feel u can contribute the most...all under the wing of the same faith.


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m water
#15 Posted : Tuesday, August 11, 2009 7:52:00 AM
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they also teach that the priorities in ones life should be as follows :
1. God
2. People
3. Work


tuweke amani for all the people
Euge
#16 Posted : Tuesday, August 11, 2009 8:01:00 AM
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The different congregations not 'sects' evangelize different groups of people and have different charisms hence the differences. e.g. Loreto sisters evangelize the youth or young if you like,Congregation of the Mission evangelize the poor and also specialize in teaching,Carmelites spend contemplative life in prayer,Daughters of St Paul evangelize through communication (publications), etc....
Lord, thank you!
Pretty
#17 Posted : Tuesday, August 11, 2009 8:46:00 AM
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@ All

· It’s not even mid month but after being allowed to do what I want,I give up.

· I tried Chivas Regal,Amarula Cream,Chic‘s Chocolate Tequila,

· I tried Guiness and Smirnoff black ice,and now am sure am through with bar affairs.

· Ever heard of a liquor called pantremover? Wacha tu.

· I think I need to know about Opus Dei,join them,and be worth my salt.

· Any one out there with contacts which I can use to enlist with Opus Dei?

· This world is so mixed up,one needs a philosophy to live by.

I love you all.

>>>>>>
A thing of beauty is a joy for ever:
Its loveliness increases;
It will never pass into nothingness;
But still will keep a bower quiet for us,
and a sleep full of sweet dreams,
and health, and quiet breathing. - Keats

>>>>>>>In life,there are three classes of people,
1. Those who make things happen,
2. Those who watch things happen
3. And those who ask what happened.

Where do you fall?
willin2learn
#18 Posted : Tuesday, August 11, 2009 10:14:00 AM
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@All,

A lot of learning there. I was a catholic for the first 19 years of my life and never knew that. Thanks.

@Pretty

Lol!








Spend.thrift
#19 Posted : Tuesday, August 11, 2009 1:51:00 PM
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@all,

This organisation is perhaps best understood from the inside. I am Catholic and for 3 decades,some of which I spent studying at Strathmore,an instituion sponsored and run by the Opus Dei,I have been unable to fully comprehend the prelature,although I find nothing particularly sinister about it. I don't think it is right to classify it as a sect. In fact in Catholic circles,it is not seen as such. The way they run Kiandas,Kibondeni,Strathmores,Loreto e.t.c.says alot about the organisation....At some point,I keep asking myself what Kenya would look like if we decided as a country to get rid of all ministers,Kibaki and Raila,PSs and in their places appointed the likes of Fina De Souza,Mcfie,Dr. Sperling,Njenga,Sotz e.t.c. to run this government

I always thought of Opus Dei as elitist but this notion is being consumed slowly because I recently found out that the are also in Kisumu and Bungoma....maybe elsewhere and the membership is diverse.

But just like many things in the Catholic church which one may not find sufficient explanation for,it is the faith that matters. If you want to join Opus Dei,do and if you don't find reason to it is still okay,only do not criticise unfairly from a point of ignorance.

The many things I have not been able to understand inlcude the financial muscle of some of these. I remember attending an Opus Dei mass at Strathmore School mass in 1995 and damn,they did better than the top companies around. There was free public transport to and from Town and at the venue everyone was given a casque with at least two active channels for English and Swahili translation (this is because the priest could only speak Spanish). Of course I was able to follow mass but....anyway.

The other things include the preservation of dead popes at the St. Peter's Basilica at the Vatican. While on visit there,I asked one of the guys there why they did it,but the explanation was not suffiecient for me...simpley life is Ashes to ashes and dust to dust,why keep bodies in glass coffins for public viewing?

I don't want to digress but hope-actually I know there must be some Opus Dei laymen,coperators or higher on this SK who can tell us more.....
susie
#20 Posted : Tuesday, August 11, 2009 5:12:00 PM
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@ pretty .Thanks,coz thats true.

Well,for sure,Opus dei is a good Organisations that runs various institutions including the prestigious IESE business School in spain.

It was started by Jose maria Escriva,a spanish priest who is now a saint.Opus dei members are serious people with different proffesions,some are even married,others are celibate.

According to me the opus dei(work of GOD) is a good organisation,but they face alot of criticism especially due to the secrecy nature.They are very secretive,as its hard to know who is a member or not.
Moreover,they are known to be stinking wealthy and rich,and have the right connections like with the EU and various goverments.

All in all,they are good people.. Who believe is a divine call
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