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passiveinvestor
#11 Posted : Saturday, September 11, 2010 11:18:29 AM
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I believe this thread was discussing what investors anticipate is going to happen in relation to the company's financial results.

The moral or political debate as to whether or not GOK SHOULD provide this subsidy is a separate issue, except insofar as it raises a question regarding Management's judgement in entering into the financing agreement on the terms and in JPY. But to debate that, we'd need greater insight into the actual terms of the loan, the purpose of the loan and the return that the firm has generated from investing the loan proceeds.
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hisah
#12 Posted : Sunday, September 12, 2010 3:14:11 PM
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kizee wrote:
tx for that hishash..usdjpy is at 15 r lows..lol..hey regrading the yen the line in the sand is 83 and the mkt is lukin set to test that lvl...eapc cud easily hedge this loan out...

@passiveinvestor..i dont get why the GOK wud do this..the hedge wud really not cost EAPCC anything as it wud be a mere exchange of cashflows....


83 is proving tough to break. Below this is 79. But positive RSI divergence against the sliding price also suggests the next move is up. Above 85.25 is required to confirm trend reversal.
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
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hisah
#13 Posted : Wednesday, September 15, 2010 3:31:16 PM
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hisah wrote:
kizee wrote:
tx for that hishash..usdjpy is at 15 r lows..lol..hey regrading the yen the line in the sand is 83 and the mkt is lukin set to test that lvl...eapc cud easily hedge this loan out...

@passiveinvestor..i dont get why the GOK wud do this..the hedge wud really not cost EAPCC anything as it wud be a mere exchange of cashflows....


83 is proving tough to break. Below this is 79. But positive RSI divergence against the sliding price also suggests the next move is up. Above 85.25 is required to confirm trend reversal.


Bank of Japan intervenes on strong Yen.
Japan Intervenes for First Time Since 2004 to Rein in Yen
And the forex manipulation, oh scratch that, meant intervention, continue. Money wars smile

Long USD/JPY on break of SMA20 (84.50) and tech barrier (85.25). 1st target 87.20 , 2nd target 88.00 and 3rd target 89.00 (but I doubt it'll see this level).
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
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kizee
#14 Posted : Wednesday, September 15, 2010 3:40:34 PM
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last time they intervened they spent +35tr yen and it failed,think the market will keep testing that 83.00 level and take it out BoJ are not larger than the market..no one is
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hisah
#15 Posted : Wednesday, September 15, 2010 3:44:56 PM
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kizee wrote:
last time they intervened they spent +35tr yen and it failed,think the market will keep testing that 83.00 level and take it out BoJ are not larger than the market..no one is


SNB has spent almost $21B since last year trying to intervene on the Swiss Franc. And they lost. ECB and her sister IMF printed $1 trillion to save the euro this May as the debt crisis sent chills down eurozone. The euro is still hopeless. BoE is broke, it can't save the pound. I'm waiting for the bloodbath and gold is confirm the money war is gaining strength.
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
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kizee
#16 Posted : Wednesday, September 15, 2010 3:52:00 PM
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hisah wrote:
kizee wrote:
last time they intervened they spent +35tr yen and it failed,think the market will keep testing that 83.00 level and take it out BoJ are not larger than the market..no one is


SNB has spent almost $21B since last year trying to intervene on the Swiss Franc. And they lost. ECB and her sister IMF printed $1 trillion to save the euro this May as the debt crisis sent chills down eurozone. The euro is still hopeless. BoE is broke, it can't save the pound. I'm waiting for the bloodbath and gold is confirm the money war is gaining strength.



ur rite my friend...oddly enuf japans fundamentals are the yens achilles heel..really catch 22 stuff
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hisah
#17 Posted : Wednesday, September 15, 2010 3:59:56 PM
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kizee wrote:
hisah wrote:
kizee wrote:
last time they intervened they spent +35tr yen and it failed,think the market will keep testing that 83.00 level and take it out BoJ are not larger than the market..no one is


SNB has spent almost $21B since last year trying to intervene on the Swiss Franc. And they lost. ECB and her sister IMF printed $1 trillion to save the euro this May as the debt crisis sent chills down eurozone. The euro is still hopeless. BoE is broke, it can't save the pound. I'm waiting for the bloodbath and gold is confirm the money war is gaining strength.



ur rite my friend...oddly enuf japans fundamentals are the yens achilles heel..really catch 22 stuff


Next action point Sept 21st when the US Fed (FOMC) meet and state their actions smile
Wall Street 2.0 is also being launched the same week - Sept 24th - Gordon Gekko is back smile
I'm so liking this action after months of boredom trading.
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
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kizee
#18 Posted : Wednesday, September 15, 2010 5:21:49 PM
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hisah wrote:
kizee wrote:
hisah wrote:
kizee wrote:
last time they intervened they spent +35tr yen and it failed,think the market will keep testing that 83.00 level and take it out BoJ are not larger than the market..no one is


SNB has spent almost $21B since last year trying to intervene on the Swiss Franc. And they lost. ECB and her sister IMF printed $1 trillion to save the euro this May as the debt crisis sent chills down eurozone. The euro is still hopeless. BoE is broke, it can't save the pound. I'm waiting for the bloodbath and gold is confirm the money war is gaining strength.



ur rite my friend...oddly enuf japans fundamentals are the yens achilles heel..really catch 22 stuff


Next action point Sept 21st when the US Fed (FOMC) meet and state their actions smile
Wall Street 2.0 is also being launched the same week - Sept 24th - Gordon Gekko is back smile
I'm so liking this action after months of boredom trading.



lol...boring trading? u have no idea.. mate i trade sub sahara and KES mainly...its worse than watching paint dry!
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VituVingiSana
#19 Posted : Wednesday, September 15, 2010 7:48:07 PM
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@kizee - How do you trade KES? Private or for a bank? The spreads are a killer!
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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hisah
#20 Posted : Wednesday, September 15, 2010 9:35:44 PM
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kizee wrote:
hisah wrote:
kizee wrote:
hisah wrote:
kizee wrote:
last time they intervened they spent +35tr yen and it failed,think the market will keep testing that 83.00 level and take it out BoJ are not larger than the market..no one is


SNB has spent almost $21B since last year trying to intervene on the Swiss Franc. And they lost. ECB and her sister IMF printed $1 trillion to save the euro this May as the debt crisis sent chills down eurozone. The euro is still hopeless. BoE is broke, it can't save the pound. I'm waiting for the bloodbath and gold is confirm the money war is gaining strength.



ur rite my friend...oddly enuf japans fundamentals are the yens achilles heel..really catch 22 stuff


Next action point Sept 21st when the US Fed (FOMC) meet and state their actions smile
Wall Street 2.0 is also being launched the same week - Sept 24th - Gordon Gekko is back smile
I'm so liking this action after months of boredom trading.



lol...boring trading? u have no idea.. mate i trade sub sahara and KES mainly...its worse than watching paint dry!


@kizee - something for you and Gordon Gekko (wazuan) Click here...
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
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