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Fundamental investor - Eveready
VituVingiSana
#21 Posted : Monday, September 06, 2010 12:52:13 PM
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At least @yawe is not one who shouts BUY, BUY, BUY, BUY, BUY, BUY, BUY without some thought/facts...
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
My 2 cents
#22 Posted : Monday, September 06, 2010 5:30:00 PM
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I cannot remember the last time I bought batteries; but I sure can remember the last time I bought
- Credit
-Booze
- A Newspaper
simonkabz
#23 Posted : Monday, September 06, 2010 5:38:31 PM
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They should take up ths great n rare opportunity n start brewing n bottling charm!
TULIA.........UFUNZWE!
VituVingiSana
#24 Posted : Monday, September 06, 2010 5:55:52 PM
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simonkabz wrote:
They should take up ths great n rare opportunity n start brewing n bottling charm!
LOLest!!!!
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
Njung'e
#25 Posted : Monday, September 06, 2010 6:12:11 PM
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simonkabz wrote:
They should take up ths great n rare opportunity n start brewing n bottling charm!


Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly......I am just wondering what i would if i found i have Paka in my stable....even a Ndead paka.
Nothing great was ever achieved without enthusiasm.
VituVingiSana
#26 Posted : Monday, September 06, 2010 7:53:05 PM
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sparkly wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
sparkly wrote:
Wazungus very cunning, so they exited everready through the IPO, knowing the company had a bleak future. Kenyan public was sold rotten mangos. They must have cooked the books seriously to dupe cma to allow them to list.
Chief, I read the prospectus & they were clear about the risks... yet MOST Kenyans refuse to read the Prospectus... then bitch!

You do know the over-subscription was MASSIVE for Neveready...?

@vvs, why an IPO? 1. To raise capital for expansion 2. Divest/take profit from a mature business 3. Divest from a business thats no longer worth it/viable if you can't sell it by private treaty... In the case of eveready, it was no. 3, and i am letting those who didn't know to know. You disagree?
My point is that if you had read the Neveready prospectus at the time... you could see the shit was going to hit the fan! Unless you were as daft as nyongo or did not read the prospectus...
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
digitek1
#27 Posted : Tuesday, September 07, 2010 10:43:14 AM
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polymer1 wrote:
They didnt take the opportunity to get into solar though they have a brand built on energy solutions.


Eveready is not listed by the earth institute as an alternative energy producer! NKt http://bit.ly/dl4Nfi

polymer1 wrote:
They need either a new management or strategy.
Applause Applause Applause Applause ati diapers!!

polymer1 wrote:

If I had the money I would buy it wholesome for the real estate where its factory is located and leave batteries to the chinese.


There is still a big market for batteries that eveready are not tapping. However the Xiang hui seem to have beat them to it as they will soon open a lithium batt factory in Nakuru (in your face zain style) http://bit.ly/d4Qs5c

robertyawe wrote:
Merali is likely to sell off his holding in Eveready and likely to a Chinese manufacturer looking to penetrate the EA market.


That said if the chineese were to make a move and the thing hits 10 bob....dont quote mesmile
I may be wrong..but then I could be right
kiragumwangi
#28 Posted : Wednesday, September 08, 2010 2:53:02 PM
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A quick look at the the company's fundamentals between 2005 and 2009 shows

+ sales fell by 27 per cent
+ net profit margin fell from a low 12 per cent to a meagre 2.5 per cent
+ EPS value fell from Ksh 0.9 to Ksh 0.14 (a massive 84 per cent decline)
+ DPS fell from Ksh 0.7 to nought

BUT

+ quick ratio remained steady at 0.6
+ gearing actually fell from 27 per cent to 16 per cent.
+ PE ratio stood at 30 in Sept. 2009 and today stands at a massive 46

There seems to be a disconnect between the company fundamentals and market fundamentals. A growth company is not necessarily a growth stock.
Evidently here a declining company (going by sales values) is proving to be a growth stock.

Lots of sentiment investors out there continuing to believe in the fortunes of this company.
sparkly
#29 Posted : Wednesday, September 08, 2010 3:02:38 PM
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@kiragu has the stock grown between 2005-2009?
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Wa_ithaka
#30 Posted : Wednesday, September 08, 2010 3:09:05 PM
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The title of thread is just bs. You can't use fundamental and Everyday in the same sentence unless you are suggesting Everready harbours fundamentalists.
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