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Orange to Orange...but there's no one to call!
KulaRaha
#1 Posted : Wednesday, September 01, 2010 4:41:29 PM
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Hmmmmmm what I find intriguing is all these Wazuans who keep talking about using Orange for Orange to Orange calls etc....

who exactly do you call?

From sim reg stats, its shows there are fewer people on Orange than there are Kurians....and Ive never met a Kuria in all my years!

Registered (ie real working) Orange sims: 250,000
Kurians (in 2009): 260,401

Ghost calls?
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#2 Posted : Wednesday, September 01, 2010 5:06:56 PM
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KulaRaha wrote:
Hmmmmmm what I find intriguing is all these Wazuans who keep talking about using Orange for Orange to Orange calls etc....

who exactly do you call?

From sim reg stats, its shows there are fewer people on Orange than there are Kurians....and Ive never met a Kuria in all my years!

Registered (ie real working) Orange sims: 250,000
Kurians (in 2009): 260,401

Ghost calls?


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#3 Posted : Wednesday, September 01, 2010 5:13:54 PM
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Looking at the way they have been beaten by YU interms of subscription Nos with no masts of their own its quite worrying.



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KulaRaha
#4 Posted : Wednesday, September 01, 2010 5:51:48 PM
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Orange paid $385M for Telkom.

That equates to roughly $1.5M per subscriber....ie KES120M per sim card.

Everyone is talking about Zain's suicidal tendencies...but Orange is not suicidal..I hereby pronounce it DEAD.

RIP.
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mwanahisa
#5 Posted : Wednesday, September 01, 2010 7:05:04 PM
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@KR. 250,000 subscribers though few is not exactly ZERO. All my family members and a couple of my friends have Orange. We have been happily talking on Friends and Family tariff at 1/= over the last year or so. I am sure Orange is losing money on this, but we can hardly be blamed for that. Besides, I still maintain my landline, so the Orange Sim comes in handy to call my house.

I have also been using the Orange Niaje tariff to make calls to landlines at 4/= and I make plenty of those. A lot of offices in this country still have landlines. With their new 2/= tariff on intra-network calls and free calls from 10.00 to 5.00, I am making significant savings.
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#6 Posted : Wednesday, September 01, 2010 8:12:07 PM
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Why they bought telkom, only they can tell us. The copper cable, their main investment is so redundant just like the telegraph and moose code. Or maybe it was a convenient entry point into the kenyan market coz even their payphones are extinct.
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#7 Posted : Wednesday, September 01, 2010 10:47:34 PM
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According to the census, 100,000 households had landlines last year. most homes don't have more than one landline, given Telkoms legacy issues with capacity and ability to fulfill requests. Recently CCK reported land line subscribers have reduced by 30% odd percent (including mobile wireless). I think the final figure was like 200,000 for fixed lines.

Mwanahisa, you must have a small family, because if you remove these wireless RUIMs from Orange's statistics, I beleive the result will be close to zero.

It's mathematics, not feelings or emotions. Orange is for all intents dead.
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#8 Posted : Thursday, September 02, 2010 9:45:22 AM
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mwanahisa wrote:
@KR. 250,000 subscribers though few is not exactly ZERO. All my family members and a couple of my friends have Orange. We have been happily talking on Friends and Family tariff at 1/= over the last year or so. I am sure Orange is losing money on this, but we can hardly be blamed for that. Besides, I still maintain my landline, so the Orange Sim comes in handy to call my house.

I have also been using the Orange Niaje tariff to make calls to landlines at 4/= and I make plenty of those. A lot of offices in this country still have landlines. With their new 2/= tariff on intra-network calls and free calls from 10.00 to 5.00, I am making significant savings.


@Mwanahisa

It pains me to even hear the word Telkom. When they had their time, they screwed us right, left and centre. Nepotism was the order of the day, blackmail was at high noon (they mess your line and when you call them to reconnect you, you had to cough a thousand to grease hands.

Parents did not allow children in the house make calls cauze if bills were inflated by Telkom, the blame would go to the children. I was whacked enough times on their behalf.

Then came telkom huaei data card and I paid 18,000 for it. The skalawags promised that a flat rate would be introduced within the end of month. Nothing happened.

Every dog has its day, the mongrel had its day, the golden retriver is having its day now, let the mongrel die a painful death.

Telkom should be allowed to die a natural death to wipe past painful experiences caused by it. If it does not want to die, we should murder it. Actually, at one time, I thought of burying it seven feet under. Telkom, please die, just die.
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#9 Posted : Thursday, September 02, 2010 10:03:22 AM
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i remember once our line was disconnected, we contancted them, they never came 3 months down the line they send a 5000 bill. Now all is left are the posts. Sigh! Sometimes its good its dead
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#10 Posted : Thursday, September 02, 2010 10:26:50 AM
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I have 3 landlines. One works. The other two haven't worked since last year. Everytime I complain they tell me the issue is within my compound, I need to buy cables, connectors etc etc.

I did that twice. The lines worked for like a week and shut down again.

Now I dont care. They keep sending me bills with fixed charge, VAT etc etc and I dont pay. There is no usage so why should I pay a fixed charge?

Last month they sent me a warning letter telling me they will disconnect and reposses my lines. WHAT A JOKE!!! Disconnect lines that arent even connected?

To hell with Telkom. They desrve their pathetic 250,000 subscribers.
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#11 Posted : Thursday, September 02, 2010 1:39:14 PM
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I'm on orange. It's quite ok, I have no complaints. I know at least two other guys on orange- one on gsm, one on fixed plus.

But out of 80 contacts in sim, only 3 orange numbers. Sad so sad. Esp coz of the 10-5 tariff.
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#12 Posted : Thursday, September 02, 2010 4:07:32 PM
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What is the prefix for orange numbers?
KulaRaha
#13 Posted : Thursday, September 02, 2010 4:38:35 PM
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My 2 cents....even I dont know, Ive never met nyone who uses Orange mobile...
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#14 Posted : Thursday, September 02, 2010 4:56:08 PM
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As Thier MD said "Voice is Dead" This are tough times indeed for small Players , Copper exprt business perhaps ???Sad
KulaRaha
#15 Posted : Thursday, September 02, 2010 5:03:18 PM
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If voice is dead, how is Safcon making 70% of their profits on voice?

That MD is sooooo mistaken, its Orange thats dead!
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#16 Posted : Thursday, September 02, 2010 6:03:54 PM
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Business is hard and rewarding sometimes, thats for sure.

I rem the MS saying, "Voice is dead" *2

They defintely are not making any profit from their voice calls, subscribers have also shun them.

Only time will tell
Elder
#17 Posted : Wednesday, September 08, 2010 2:05:59 PM
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With their free call time from 10is to 5is for 100/month orange just became the preferred cheap office intercom.
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KulaRaha
#18 Posted : Wednesday, September 08, 2010 3:10:56 PM
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Elder wrote:
With their free call time from 10is to 5is for 100/month orange just became the preferred cheap office intercom.


I think subscriber numbers will tell us if this true or not.

Poor Orange, victim no 1 of the price-war!
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